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  • jose6326
    Badcaps Veteran
    • May 2013
    • 707
    • USA

    #1

    LG 42PC5DC plasma tv clicking on off

    I picked up this tv today

    The tv powers on and the red led illuminates in front

    When I push the power button the red led turns off then a green led comes on then you hear clicking on the ps board and the red led comes back on

    When I push the power button there is no illumination of the screen because it clicks on and off quickly

    There are 2 fuses on the ps board which I found 1 blown 4A fuse on the ps board (see pic with arrow)
    There are no visible blown/bulging caps

    I did replace the blown fuse with a 3.15A fuse that I took from a spare ps board
    Hoping this would fix the problem it did not it only blew the fuse when I pressed the power button
    This fuse that keeps blowing is located in between the heat sink and the 2 big caps to the right of the center of the ps board (see pic with arrow). The other fuse that did not blow is located by the connector for line voltage

    I ordered 10 fuses from digikey so I can try to figure out what is the problem which im guessing is a short somewhere.

    Im guessing I have to disconnect the cables going to the other boards to determine if the short is coming from tbe ps board?
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  • capkid
    Badcaps Legend
    • Oct 2010
    • 1339
    • United States

    #2
    Re: LG 42PC5DC plasma tv clicking on off

    You most likely have a failed component on the primary side of the PSU. I'd pull the PSU and look for obviously blown or burned components with a flashlight first.
    LG Plasma Mal-Discharge Correction Service

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    • ben7
      Capaholic
      • Jan 2011
      • 4059
      • USA

      #3
      Re: LG 42PC5DC plasma tv clicking on off

      Checked the MOSFETs on the heatsink next to the fuse that keeps blowing. See if any of them are shorted.
      Muh-soggy-knee

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      • jose6326
        Badcaps Veteran
        • May 2013
        • 707
        • USA

        #4
        Re: LG 42PC5DC plasma tv clicking on off

        thanks i will check for burned components later on today

        how do you check a mosfet?

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        • jose6326
          Badcaps Veteran
          • May 2013
          • 707
          • USA

          #5
          Re: LG 42PC5DC plasma tv clicking on off

          is ok to use glass fuses instead of ceramic as long as the amperage is the same?

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          • tom66
            EVs Rule
            • Apr 2011
            • 32560
            • UK

            #6
            Re: LG 42PC5DC plasma tv clicking on off

            In general not unless you like picking out embedded glass fragments from your skin when the fuse blows. Most glass fuses can't safely interrupt high fault currents such as those available from your average plug, which will result in them exploding in many cases. I have made this mistake before, luckily I was in front of the set when fuse went pop. Ceramic fuses will retain their integrity when they fuse open.
            Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
            For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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            • jose6326
              Badcaps Veteran
              • May 2013
              • 707
              • USA

              #7
              Re: LG 42PC5DC plasma tv clicking on off

              yea i figured the glass would go everywhere if it blows.

              right now i found 3.15A fuses so i will use those for now until the ones from digikey get here

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              • jose6326
                Badcaps Veteran
                • May 2013
                • 707
                • USA

                #8
                Re: LG 42PC5DC plasma tv clicking on off

                Ok so I put in a good fuse, disconnected the cables going to the other boards

                I plugged in the power cord and turned on the power to the surge protector then the relay on the psu started clicking and you can hear one of the transformers powering on and of in sequence with the relay and about 5-8 seconds the ceramic fuse blew

                So im guessing the problem is isolated to the psu?

                I checked the board and I couldnt find any visible burns or defective components

                Now I need help checking the mosfets on the heat sinks

                How do I do this?

                What kind of readings am I looking for

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                • capkid
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                  • Oct 2010
                  • 1339
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                  #9
                  Re: LG 42PC5DC plasma tv clicking on off

                  You probably have N-channel mosfets: https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...0&postcount=40

                  Edit: You sometimes have to test them out of circuit if your readings are questionable. You can usually just unsolder one of the mosfet's leads.
                  Last edited by capkid; 08-07-2013, 11:05 PM.
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                  • jose6326
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • May 2013
                    • 707
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: LG 42PC5DC plasma tv clicking on off

                    I think I figured it out

                    I put the dial on diode mode and I tested the first 2 mosfets closest to the fuse that keeps blowing

                    These are the readings

                    1-2 : 0.002
                    2-3: 0.000
                    1-3: 0.002

                    1-2: 0.000
                    2-3: 0.000
                    1-3: 0.000

                    Did I test these correct?
                    Please see pics
                    The 2 mosfets in the yellow box are the closest to the fuse that keeps blowing

                    The number on the mosfets I tested is W20NK50Z
                    Not sure who the maker is but the logo is St
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                    Last edited by jose6326; 08-07-2013, 11:22 PM.

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                    • capkid
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                      • Oct 2010
                      • 1339
                      • United States

                      #11
                      Re: LG 42PC5DC plasma tv clicking on off

                      It looks like you have shorted mosfet(s). I'd try testing them off the board.

                      http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/...2fw3iiJbnjc%3d
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                      • jose6326
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • May 2013
                        • 707
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: LG 42PC5DC plasma tv clicking on off

                        i will test the other 2 mosfets on the same heatsink furthest form the fuse blowing.

                        i didnt get a chance to last night

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                        • tom66
                          EVs Rule
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 32560
                          • UK

                          #13
                          Re: LG 42PC5DC plasma tv clicking on off

                          Depending on the design you -may- also need to replace the L6598 chip too.
                          Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                          For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                          • jose6326
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • May 2013
                            • 707
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: LG 42PC5DC plasma tv clicking on off

                            i wish i would have seen your post earlier tom

                            i could of purchased this chip together with the mosfets to avoid paying multiple shipping charges

                            oh well

                            i will replace the mosfets first and if it does not fix the issue i will replace the chip


                            thanks capkid and tom

                            edit: i was able to add the chip to my order just in time
                            Last edited by jose6326; 08-08-2013, 09:42 AM.

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                            • jose6326
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                              • May 2013
                              • 707
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: LG 42PC5DC plasma tv clicking on off

                              How do I pull the mosfet off of the heat sink?

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                              • capkid
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 1339
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                                #16
                                Re: LG 42PC5DC plasma tv clicking on off

                                You should be able to unsolder the mosfet from the board then unscrew it from the heat sink. Make sure you save the insulators that sit between the heat sink and mosfets.
                                Last edited by capkid; 08-08-2013, 07:36 PM.
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                                • jose6326
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                                  • May 2013
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                                  Re: LG 42PC5DC plasma tv clicking on off

                                  I desoldered the legs from the board and removed the screws

                                  But the mosfet is like glued to the heat sink
                                  I cant get it off
                                  I even tried pulling it off with flat pliers and nothing

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                                  • capkid
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Oct 2010
                                    • 1339
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                                    #18
                                    Re: LG 42PC5DC plasma tv clicking on off

                                    Those can be a pain. I have some bent needle nose pliers that I use to get a grip on the mosfets when they're stuck. Make sure you've removed all the solder then you'll have to grip the mosfet and wiggle it until it's free.

                                    Edit: You might want to try heating the back side of the sink with a hairdryer if there are no components close by.
                                    Last edited by capkid; 08-08-2013, 08:48 PM.
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                                    • jose6326
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                                      • May 2013
                                      • 707
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                                      #19
                                      Re: LG 42PC5DC plasma tv clicking on off

                                      I got them off I just needed to use a little bit of muscle

                                      Capkid can you check my other thread for the samsung tv
                                      I need help going further on testing

                                      Thanks
                                      Last edited by jose6326; 08-08-2013, 08:50 PM.

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                                      • jose6326
                                        Badcaps Veteran
                                        • May 2013
                                        • 707
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: LG 42PC5DC plasma tv clicking on off

                                        Should I replace the caps on the psu even if they are not bulged?

                                        I really need to order an esr meter

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