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  • mcross
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Sep 2011
    • 201
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    #1

    Oevia 252fhd-t11 DPS-408AP B power supply

    I have a Olevia 252fhd-t11 that the power supply is only putting out 12v to the inverters, should be 24v, there is no 24v coming from the ps anywhere. I put in pic;s with the top removed from the heatsink on the dc side. Tv has sound but no backlight, was working sometime and not others. PS is a Delta DPS-408AP B
    Any ideas
    Mike
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    Last edited by mcross; 05-29-2013, 01:48 PM.
  • retiredcaps
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    • Apr 2010
    • 9271

    #2
    Re: Oevia 252fhd-t11 DPS-408AP B power supply

    The main board controls VBL (backlight) and probably VLAMP (???). I'm guessing VBL should be HI (> 3V). VLAMP might also need to be HI in order for the backlights to come on.
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    • tom66
      EVs Rule
      • Apr 2011
      • 32560
      • UK

      #3
      Re: Oevia 252fhd-t11 DPS-408AP B power supply

      Try checking the voltage across the large 390uF 450V capacitor. I don't think I've ever seen an LCD power supply with such a large capacitor, assuming it's using PFC (more than likely.)
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      • mcross
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        • Sep 2011
        • 201
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        #4
        Re: Oevia 252fhd-t11 DPS-408AP B power supply

        The vbl is 2.3v, nothing on the vl, the big cap is 398v
        must be in the vl ?
        Mike

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        • tom66
          EVs Rule
          • Apr 2011
          • 32560
          • UK

          #5
          Re: Oevia 252fhd-t11 DPS-408AP B power supply

          398V is good, but on the 24V pins, you only have 12V? Can you see what they measure with the inverters unplugged?
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          • mcross
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            • Sep 2011
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            #6
            Re: Oevia 252fhd-t11 DPS-408AP B power supply

            Tom66,
            with them unpluged I still get 12v
            By the way the vlamp is not used as there is no connector going to it
            Mike
            Last edited by mcross; 05-30-2013, 08:11 AM.

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            • multimeter
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Jan 2011
              • 739
              • united kingdom

              #7
              Re: Oevia 252fhd-t11 DPS-408AP B power supply

              are you getting stable and correct voltage PS-ON ?,this will come from main board to PSU
              fixed so far...376 lg lcd tv's,24 onn tv;s,24 panasonic lcd,16 jvc lcd,12 marshall jcm800 amps,refurb of various disco equipment lighting,old style disco decks ,and a flymo!

              ----------------------------------------------
              please let us know if everything works ok if your tv gets fixed, as it will be and aid for anyone else having the same problem and wishing to fix it.it would save people clogging up this site with topics that are duplicated,and can be found easily using the search function.,and taking up valuable space.enjoy your fixed tv!,hopefully!

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              • mcross
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                • Sep 2011
                • 201
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                #8
                Re: Oevia 252fhd-t11 DPS-408AP B power supply

                I am glad you asked, did not check before, only getting 2.2v on ps-on and 5v sectionis only reading 2.4v

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                • multimeter
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 739
                  • united kingdom

                  #9
                  Re: Oevia 252fhd-t11 DPS-408AP B power supply

                  sounds like a problem on main board,not fully turning the psu on,can you put a resistor between PS-ON and STB PIN?,to see if the power supply voltages comes up?this would be with the main board disconnected
                  fixed so far...376 lg lcd tv's,24 onn tv;s,24 panasonic lcd,16 jvc lcd,12 marshall jcm800 amps,refurb of various disco equipment lighting,old style disco decks ,and a flymo!

                  ----------------------------------------------
                  please let us know if everything works ok if your tv gets fixed, as it will be and aid for anyone else having the same problem and wishing to fix it.it would save people clogging up this site with topics that are duplicated,and can be found easily using the search function.,and taking up valuable space.enjoy your fixed tv!,hopefully!

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                  • tom66
                    EVs Rule
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 32560
                    • UK

                    #10
                    Re: Oevia 252fhd-t11 DPS-408AP B power supply

                    Can you unscrew the large heatshield covering the left hand side of the board?
                    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...7&d=1369856268
                    then show us what lies within. Don't run the PSU for longer than 30 seconds at a time with that shield off.
                    Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                    For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                    • multimeter
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 739
                      • united kingdom

                      #11
                      Re: Oevia 252fhd-t11 DPS-408AP B power supply

                      can we have a good quality pic of the main board also?
                      fixed so far...376 lg lcd tv's,24 onn tv;s,24 panasonic lcd,16 jvc lcd,12 marshall jcm800 amps,refurb of various disco equipment lighting,old style disco decks ,and a flymo!

                      ----------------------------------------------
                      please let us know if everything works ok if your tv gets fixed, as it will be and aid for anyone else having the same problem and wishing to fix it.it would save people clogging up this site with topics that are duplicated,and can be found easily using the search function.,and taking up valuable space.enjoy your fixed tv!,hopefully!

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                      • tom66
                        EVs Rule
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 32560
                        • UK

                        #12
                        Re: Oevia 252fhd-t11 DPS-408AP B power supply

                        2.2V on PSON should be fine.
                        Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
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                        • mcross
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                          • Sep 2011
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                          #13
                          Re: Oevia 252fhd-t11 DPS-408AP B power supply

                          Tom that one i an not as it is soldered and has ic's or regulators atached,
                          I put the resistor on and checked , it is still the same voltage, heres the pic of the main also
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                          • multimeter
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 739
                            • united kingdom

                            #14
                            Re: Oevia 252fhd-t11 DPS-408AP B power supply

                            id have thought a PS-ON voltage should be around the 3v mark,hmm!

                            do you have an ESR meter to check those output caps?if these are bad,this will cause the voltage drop also
                            fixed so far...376 lg lcd tv's,24 onn tv;s,24 panasonic lcd,16 jvc lcd,12 marshall jcm800 amps,refurb of various disco equipment lighting,old style disco decks ,and a flymo!

                            ----------------------------------------------
                            please let us know if everything works ok if your tv gets fixed, as it will be and aid for anyone else having the same problem and wishing to fix it.it would save people clogging up this site with topics that are duplicated,and can be found easily using the search function.,and taking up valuable space.enjoy your fixed tv!,hopefully!

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                            • tom66
                              EVs Rule
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 32560
                              • UK

                              #15
                              Re: Oevia 252fhd-t11 DPS-408AP B power supply

                              Personally I would be considering the poly-cap which couples the transformer drive or a bad TL431/optocoupler. Without getting that shield off, mighty difficult to test things.
                              Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
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                              • mcross
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                                • Sep 2011
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                                #16
                                Re: Oevia 252fhd-t11 DPS-408AP B power supply

                                Yes i have a ESR meter, will check the caps, I can remove the sheld, but then there is no sink for the ic, and ground?

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                                • tom66
                                  EVs Rule
                                  • Apr 2011
                                  • 32560
                                  • UK

                                  #17
                                  Re: Oevia 252fhd-t11 DPS-408AP B power supply

                                  Perhaps you can get a picture from the sides so we can peak under the shield and get an idea of how it is laid out?
                                  Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
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                                  • mcross
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                                    #18
                                    Re: Oevia 252fhd-t11 DPS-408AP B power supply

                                    heres pic, ESR was good,
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                                    • mcross
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                                      • Sep 2011
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                                      #19
                                      Re: Oevia 252fhd-t11 DPS-408AP B power supply

                                      Ok , I got another PS that was working in a tv. It gives the same readings as the old one. I am now looking else wher for the problem. I have uploaded a pic of the complete set up. I think the t-con may have a part in it . There is a ribbon cable going from the t-con to the master inverter. also the Vlamp has no wire going to it, just the vbl, it goes to the master inverter.
                                      Mike
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                                      • mcross
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                                        • Sep 2011
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                                        #20
                                        Re: Oevia 252fhd-t11 DPS-408AP B power supply

                                        Tom, and multimeter, Ifound a problem, My meter is bad, got a new and the voltages are good, now going to rethink it all as I beleave the main board is the problem. please look at the pic';s in the above post and let me know your thoughts
                                        Mike

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