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  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
    • 32560
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    #61
    Re: SAMSUNG PS42D51SX bad picture

    I am out of ideas now... It is an X-main fault. But it could be the control board not sending the right signals. That doesn't make sense though, because they are generated at the same time as the Y-main. Did you check Ve? +15V & +5V going to X-main?
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    • Stanislav
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      • Dec 2012
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      #62
      Re: SAMSUNG PS42D51SX bad picture

      I checked them again, Ve -voltage jumps 110-113v

      +15v-ok
      +5v-ok
      Last edited by Stanislav; 01-11-2013, 12:17 PM.

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      • tom66
        EVs Rule
        • Apr 2011
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        #63
        Re: SAMSUNG PS42D51SX bad picture

        Ve seems OK then, assuming that's what's on the panel, most TV it is around 130~150V though, so do please check it or see if increasing it improves discharge quality.

        Ve is used to initialise the discharge of the panel.

        Also, please check if when switching on your TV it takes a while for all pixels to become ready (like liquid filling in), or is this effect instantaneous with all pixels working just purple/dim.
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        • Stanislav
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          #64
          Re: SAMSUNG PS42D51SX bad picture

          when switching On or change channels ,Pixelс gradually filled

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          • tom66
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            • Apr 2011
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            #65
            Re: SAMSUNG PS42D51SX bad picture

            OK, what does the panel sticker say for Ve then?
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            • Stanislav
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              #66
              Re: SAMSUNG PS42D51SX bad picture

              Ve-110V

              I changed the voltage from 110 to 150 volts, no improvement

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              • tom66
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                #67
                Re: SAMSUNG PS42D51SX bad picture

                I am now officially stumped. Inspect the flat flex cable for tears or breaks.
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                • Stanislav
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                  #68
                  Re: SAMSUNG PS42D51SX bad picture

                  I checked each wire-OK

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                  • tom66
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                    #69
                    Re: SAMSUNG PS42D51SX bad picture

                    Even the ones going to the plasma panel?
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                    • Stanislav
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                      #70
                      Re: SAMSUNG PS42D51SX bad picture

                      not just the flat cable between the board and management board

                      Last edited by Stanislav; 01-11-2013, 02:05 PM.

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                      • tom66
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                        #71
                        Re: SAMSUNG PS42D51SX bad picture

                        That is one thing I forgot to ask. How is the XS and XG testpoints near there?
                        I am expecting occasional square wave bursts on XS and XG.
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                        • Stanislav
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                          #72
                          Re: SAMSUNG PS42D51SX bad picture

                          Tom I saw something of the managing board,flashing green LED ,there are four such

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                          • tom66
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                            #73
                            Re: SAMSUNG PS42D51SX bad picture

                            Flashing green LED means the board is working.

                            Other LEDs indicate plasma panel temperature in binary or on 1-4 scale. All lit is bad. Anything otherwise is OK.
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                            • Stanislav
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                              #74
                              Re: SAMSUNG PS42D51SX bad picture

                              Tom there is not no signal
                              the first is XS second is XG

                              Last edited by Stanislav; 01-11-2013, 02:20 PM.

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                              • Stanislav
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                                #75
                                Re: SAMSUNG PS42D51SX bad picture


                                since no signal can you check something or again replace board
                                Last edited by Stanislav; 01-11-2013, 02:59 PM.

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                                • tom66
                                  EVs Rule
                                  • Apr 2011
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                                  #76
                                  Re: SAMSUNG PS42D51SX bad picture

                                  Hmm, you should definitely be seeing something on XG, but you are not. Since you replaced the X-main board I would suspect the control board or the cable going to it... try reversing the cable (so that control board side is connected to x-main side, x-main side to control board side) and see if the symptoms change.
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                                  • Stanislav
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                                    #77
                                    Re: SAMSUNG PS42D51SX bad picture

                                    XS bord

                                    XG bord

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                                    • tom66
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                                      #78
                                      Re: SAMSUNG PS42D51SX bad picture

                                      BTW, what scale is that on at the moment? 5V/div?
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                                      • Stanislav
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                                        #79
                                        Re: SAMSUNG PS42D51SX bad picture

                                        yes 5vDIV / 2 mikro sek.

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                                        • Stanislav
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                                          #80
                                          Re: SAMSUNG PS42D51SX bad picture

                                          this is the bord

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