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  • Stanislav
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 135
    • Bulgaria

    #1

    SAMSUNG PS42D51SX bad picture

    After damage to my TV, I changed this board which was quite damaged


    That picture looks, after the change of board


  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
    • 32560
    • UK

    #2
    Re: SAMSUNG PS42D51SX bad picture

    Wrong board... you need to swap the X-main, not the Y-main when you get those symptoms.
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    • Stanislav
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      • Dec 2012
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      #3
      Re: SAMSUNG PS42D51SX bad picture

      Hi Tom thank you again for the reply

      Initially there was no picture, of this picture came after the change of board.

      We will now look at other bord, and will order.

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      • tom66
        EVs Rule
        • Apr 2011
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        • UK

        #4
        Re: SAMSUNG PS42D51SX bad picture

        Check the fuse on it, if it has one.
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        • Stanislav
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          • Dec 2012
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          #5
          Re: SAMSUNG PS42D51SX bad picture

          Yes, there I checked it-ОК

          The old. Y board has five blown transistors
          Last edited by Stanislav; 12-15-2012, 12:25 PM.

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          • Stanislav
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            • Dec 2012
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            #6
            Re: SAMSUNG PS42D51SX bad picture

            Today came the X board ,but with it there is no change in the picture.
            remove the power cabel but nothing changes in picture.

            If you have any ideas please share them

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            • tom66
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              • Apr 2011
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              #7
              Re: SAMSUNG PS42D51SX bad picture

              Check the Yfr and Yrr settings on the new Y-main. Tweak them gradually and see if the picture improves. Also, check the Vset, Vsc and Ve voltages. In particular a low Ve can sometimes cause this.
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              • Stanislav
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                • Dec 2012
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                #8
                Re: SAMSUNG PS42D51SX bad picture

                Hello Tom

                for smooth rotation of the trimmer ,picture is improving but very few.


                To check the voltages I need some help
                Last edited by Stanislav; 01-03-2013, 11:41 AM.

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                • tom66
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                  #9
                  Re: SAMSUNG PS42D51SX bad picture

                  Have you adjusted Yrr too?
                  Post a close shot of your power supply (both the main one and the smaller sub-one), I can help you locate the test points.
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                  • Stanislav
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                    • Dec 2012
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                    #10
                    Re: SAMSUNG PS42D51SX bad picture

                    I change and Yrr picture changes but not enough.
                    I checked these values of Volt in the picture -ОК



                    This is a picture of the entire Board


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                    • Stanislav
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                      • Dec 2012
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                      #11
                      Re: SAMSUNG PS42D51SX bad picture

                      I saw them



                      Last edited by Stanislav; 01-03-2013, 12:17 PM.

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                      • tom66
                        EVs Rule
                        • Apr 2011
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                        #12
                        Re: SAMSUNG PS42D51SX bad picture

                        OK, the first step is to adjust the VS, VA voltages so that they are within 1V of the specification. (Ideally +/-0.2V.) The specification is on the back of the plasma panel, the sticker that says NTSC/PAL.

                        To adjust you need to measure the voltage at the particular test point and

                        Once you have adjusted those post a picture of the white board adjacent to the power supply -- it has the other voltages on it which are also important for the plasma display to work properly.
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                        • Stanislav
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                          #13
                          Re: SAMSUNG PS42D51SX bad picture

                          Va and Vs are perfect

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                          • tom66
                            EVs Rule
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                            #14
                            Re: SAMSUNG PS42D51SX bad picture

                            Good. Now check Vscan and Vset. There could also be a Ve voltage, though that might only be present on newer displays.

                            BTW, did you ever fix the Panasonic P50G20E?
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                            • Stanislav
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                              #15
                              Re: SAMSUNG PS42D51SX bad picture

                              Vscan ,Vset, Ve are perfect

                              Panasonic me crazy too ,Work 2-3 days and then goes bad, If you leave after 5 minutes a bad job works that never damaging. sometimes do not want to Tuned ON. I do not know what to do
                              Last edited by Stanislav; 01-03-2013, 12:47 PM.

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                              • tom66
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                                #16
                                Re: SAMSUNG PS42D51SX bad picture

                                Hmm, I cannot think what is causing the issue if all the voltages are good. tieny found that he had a shorted transistor in the Yfr/Yrr area which was causing overdiffusion. You are seeing underdiffusion in this case, but either would be possible. You replaced 5 FETs but maybe that wasn't enough...


                                I suggested you reflow the Panasonic board, did that have any effect?
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                                • Stanislav
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                                  #17
                                  Re: SAMSUNG PS42D51SX bad picture

                                  I changed the whole board Y not only transistors.

                                  there's something strange. I leave the TV to work 5 minutes ,coolers of Y board are HOT but coolers of X board are cold (ice) It's probably not normal


                                  What do you mean to reflow the Panasonic board

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                                  • tom66
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                                    #18
                                    Re: SAMSUNG PS42D51SX bad picture

                                    See the symptom looks exactly like a failed X board but you said you'd replaced it. Are you 100% sure it is a working board?
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                                    • Stanislav
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                                      #19
                                      Re: SAMSUNG PS42D51SX bad picture

                                      NО . I bought it on eBay

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                                      • tom66
                                        EVs Rule
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                                        #20
                                        Re: SAMSUNG PS42D51SX bad picture

                                        Check the fuse on it (does it have one?)
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