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  • mmartell
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    • Oct 2013
    • 3189
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    #241
    Re: Samsung 50" Plasma HPT5044 No Picture

    Pic seems pretty bright. What do I need an xmain again for ?
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    • mmartell
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      • Oct 2013
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      #242
      Re: Samsung 50" Plasma HPT5044 No Picture

      Let me post up a pic of the xsus...

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      • tom66
        EVs Rule
        • Apr 2011
        • 32560
        • UK

        #243
        Re: Samsung 50" Plasma HPT5044 No Picture

        try heating the X-main and PSU and see if the problem occurs quicker.
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        • mmartell
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          • Oct 2013
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          #244
          Re: Samsung 50" Plasma HPT5044 No Picture

          The ysus is operating normally as per the previous pic so I would think my problems lie with the xmain. What components did you replace on that LG with the bad Vzbias ?

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          • tom66
            EVs Rule
            • Apr 2011
            • 32560
            • UK

            #245
            Re: Samsung 50" Plasma HPT5044 No Picture

            Just the regulator FET, and the original two Vzbias-drive FETs that blew (causing the fault in the first place)
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            • splitcrete
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              • Dec 2012
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              • usa

              #246
              Re: Samsung 50" Plasma HPT5044 No Picture

              I think he didn't test the fets under the heat sink correct. Test them on just ohms no diode mode and it may be the end of all this.

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              • splitcrete
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                • Dec 2012
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                #247
                Re: Samsung 50" Plasma HPT5044 No Picture

                You may find a short on one or all...

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                • mmartell
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                  • Oct 2013
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                  #248
                  Re: Samsung 50" Plasma HPT5044 No Picture

                  Still chasing my tail with this one but here's an update...

                  There was no problem with VS or the power supply etc. Had this notion that I should recheck VS AFTER the screen lit up and sure enough was set way too high. Setting it as per panel sticker solved that. -> Idiot Award <- lol

                  Now, I have a good ysus, xsus and an upper and lower buffer each with a scan ic missing. I installed the last ic on the upper buffer and when I ran the set the picture area drawn by that ic had extreme noise so I pushed gently on it with the rubber end of a screwdriver to see if it was a contact issue and *Pop* went that ic.

                  I removed it and checked that both buffers were good and now when I run the set I get NO picture on the lower half of the screen although it is lit (upper half is the "no signal" w/blue background).

                  So my question is I know the signal from the control board runs through the ysus so did I damage something on it and if so where should I look ? Or did I damage the control board itself ?
                  Last edited by mmartell; 09-15-2014, 02:41 AM.

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                  • mmartell
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                    • Oct 2013
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                    #249
                    Re: Samsung 50" Plasma HPT5044 No Picture

                    Ok not the ysus, had another here and symptoms are the same.

                    Pic might not show the bottom half of the screen well but it's glowing.

                    I know the signal is daisy-chained from upper to lower. Is there an easy way to tell which buffer is at fault since they both test free of shorts ?
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                    Last edited by mmartell; 09-15-2014, 08:03 AM.

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                    • tom66
                      EVs Rule
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 32560
                      • UK

                      #250
                      Re: Samsung 50" Plasma HPT5044 No Picture

                      Will probably be 3rd or 4th on that board, hard to be certain which.
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                      • mmartell
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                        • Oct 2013
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                        #251
                        Re: Samsung 50" Plasma HPT5044 No Picture

                        Ya the fourth buffer ic is not installed thats why the second quadrant looks a little dimmer. The problem is there is no picture in the bottom half of the screen (lower buffer is installed) even though the screen is lit up. Is the lower buffer bad somehow (there are no shorts) or is the upper buffer not passing down the signal to it and how would I find out ?

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                        • tom66
                          EVs Rule
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 32560
                          • UK

                          #252
                          Re: Samsung 50" Plasma HPT5044 No Picture

                          Without that 4th chip, data won't get to the rest of the buffer ICs.
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                          • mmartell
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                            • Oct 2013
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                            #253
                            Re: Samsung 50" Plasma HPT5044 No Picture

                            Hmm.. I've done too many permutations I think I may be confusing myself...

                            So the upper buffer can be missing the FIRST scan ic and still show a pic on the top half but the 4th ic must be installed to pass scan info to lower buffer ? Ok thanks for that will get the other two ic's installed and see what I get.

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