LG 42PC1DA Plasma Sound but blank screen

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  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
    • 32560
    • UK

    #41
    Re: LG 42PC1DA Plasma Sound but blank screen

    OK, across any of the 5 red capacitors (bottom left) you should have around 60-100V if the Z-sustain is working.
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    • ghiotom
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      • Oct 2012
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      • USA

      #42
      Re: LG 42PC1DA Plasma Sound but blank screen

      Are you sure you're getting 15V at the IPM on the Zsus board?

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      • LesWoollam
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2012
        • 69
        • United Kingdom

        #43
        Re: LG 42PC1DA Plasma Sound but blank screen

        There's 162v across the 5 x capacitor bank.
        15v is getting to the Z-sus IPM.

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        • tom66
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          • Apr 2011
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          #44
          Re: LG 42PC1DA Plasma Sound but blank screen

          Hmm, 162V seems too high, what is Vs for this set?
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          • LesWoollam
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            • Nov 2012
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            • United Kingdom

            #45
            Re: LG 42PC1DA Plasma Sound but blank screen

            VS 186v; VA 60v

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            • tom66
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              • Apr 2011
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              #46
              Re: LG 42PC1DA Plasma Sound but blank screen

              I suppose, as it is not at full Vs, or 0V, that it is not shorted out, but I am really confused by why you don't have any picture at all. Apart from the ramp wave on the Z-sustain everything appears OK.
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              • LesWoollam
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                • Nov 2012
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                #47
                Re: LG 42PC1DA Plasma Sound but blank screen

                Could it have anything to do with the X-Board?

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                • tom66
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                  • Apr 2011
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                  #48
                  Re: LG 42PC1DA Plasma Sound but blank screen

                  Do you mean the Z-sustain or the panel X buffers? It's unlikely to be the panel X buffers, as they usually cause stuck lines or blocks of pixels when they fail.
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                  • ghiotom
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                    • Oct 2012
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                    #49
                    Re: LG 42PC1DA Plasma Sound but blank screen

                    Even with the Zsus board disconnected, you should get a dim image on the screen.

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                    • LesWoollam
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                      • Nov 2012
                      • 69
                      • United Kingdom

                      #50
                      Re: LG 42PC1DA Plasma Sound but blank screen

                      Yes, I did mean the X buffer board.
                      Even with the Z-sus board removed the screen is completely blank.

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                      • tom66
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                        • Apr 2011
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                        #51
                        Re: LG 42PC1DA Plasma Sound but blank screen

                        This makes me worry the panel is bad. Is it making a buzzing/crackling sound, like someone rapidly tapping on glass?
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                        • LesWoollam
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                          • Nov 2012
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                          #52
                          Re: LG 42PC1DA Plasma Sound but blank screen

                          I was beginning to have the same thought myself. However, there is no sound coming from the panel.

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                          • tom66
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                            #53
                            Re: LG 42PC1DA Plasma Sound but blank screen

                            Either way something isn't right with the Z-sustain and I'm not sure why.
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                            • LesWoollam
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                              • Nov 2012
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                              #54
                              Re: LG 42PC1DA Plasma Sound but blank screen

                              If the panel has gone would that cause the Z-sus board to be cold but the Y-sus board warm as normal?

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                              • tom66
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                                #55
                                Re: LG 42PC1DA Plasma Sound but blank screen

                                Normally neither board would be warm.
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                                • LesWoollam
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                                  • Nov 2012
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                                  • United Kingdom

                                  #56
                                  Re: LG 42PC1DA Plasma Sound but blank screen

                                  So is the X-sus board getting warm a sign the panel is OK?

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                                  • ghiotom
                                    Member
                                    • Oct 2012
                                    • 41
                                    • USA

                                    #57
                                    Re: LG 42PC1DA Plasma Sound but blank screen

                                    Have you ruled out the Y-Buffer board? If all of your DC voltages are correct and you have the correct waveform coming out of your Y-Sus board, could the buffer board be the problem? BTW, I have a working 42PC3D, which is similar to yours, cracked open on the bench in case you need me to make any comparison checks.

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                                    • LesWoollam
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                                      • Nov 2012
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                                      • United Kingdom

                                      #58
                                      Re: LG 42PC1DA Plasma Sound but blank screen

                                      I assume the Y-buffer board is the long board on the left (sometimes called the Y-drive board)?
                                      If that's the one, it has 10 x scan ics which would all have to have failed to leave the screen blank wouldn't they?
                                      How can I test the Y-buffer board?

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                                      • tom66
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                                        • Apr 2011
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                                        #59
                                        Re: LG 42PC1DA Plasma Sound but blank screen

                                        This link has a test you can perform:
                                        http://blog.coppelltvrepair.com/2010...er-boards.html

                                        It's for a Samsung but it should be similar for LG.
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                                        • LesWoollam
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                                          • Nov 2012
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                                          • United Kingdom

                                          #60
                                          Re: LG 42PC1DA Plasma Sound but blank screen

                                          Performed the test on the buffer board and all scan chips check-out OK. However, on listening very closely to the screen I can hear a faint buzzing sound - certainly not like glass being tapped, but nevertheless there is a buzzing sound. Sounding like a dead panel?

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