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  • ryan74
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    Magnavox 40mf401b/f7

    i have a magnavox 40MF401B/F7 that when you turn it on the stby light in front blinks 18 times for about 5 sec and then goes out. when the light goes out the screen lights dim about 50%. no picture, no sound, no input display(time/channel).

    voltage from psu seemed ok but some tp werent labeled or couldnt read so i skipped them. there is a slight hum coming from the long narrow board left of psu.

    I think this is common but i couldnt find a thread. I would apreciate help.

    another quik question.. is there a good info source for beginner lcd tv repair? a guide to repair with symptoms/solutions. anyone heard of "Mike's tv repair histories"? I found it here www.tvrepairinfo.com after watching youtube videos.
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    Last edited by ryan74; 10-24-2012, 11:58 AM.
  • ryan74
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    Re: Magnavox 40mf401b/f7

    pics of the 2 connectors on power supply. inverter and main board. i retested them.

    inverter con:
    pwm-sel = .772v
    bl-adg = .76v
    bl-5w = 2.95v
    error = 3.2mv
    24v = 23.90v

    main board:
    tuner35v = 37.68v
    lcd12v = 12.17v
    lcd12v = 12.17v
    G
    G
    p-on+3.3v = 3.38v
    G
    +6.5v for 1v = 7.71v / 190mv
    G
    p-on3.5v for reg = 3.68v
    G
    p-on+5v = 5.27v
    G
    24v for amp = 27.46v
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    Last edited by ryan74; 10-24-2012, 01:34 PM.

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    • ryan74
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      #3
      Re: Magnavox 40mf401b/f7 blinking light

      Originally posted by ryan74
      there is a slight hum coming from the long narrow board left of psu.
      i meant the inverter board.

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      • ryan74
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        #4
        Re: Magnavox 40mf401b/f7

        any help? please

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        • budm
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          #5
          Re: Magnavox 40mf401b/f7

          The inverter is getting all the correct voltages from the power supply and from the main board but it is sending ot an ERROR signal, if the Inverter board is fucntioning, the ERROR pin will be >3VDC, rught now it is LOW= ERROR.
          I need to see GOOD CLEAR FOCUSED pictures of the area around the connectors of the inverter board and the whole board that the cables from the power supply board are plugged in. I think you have a blown fuse for the PWM IC. See fuse F5 in the picture.
          I also need the LCD panel model number, there should be a sticker on the LCD panel showing the model number.
          Attached Files
          Never stop learning
          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

          TV Factory reset codes listing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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          • ryan74
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            #6
            Re: Magnavox 40mf401b/f7

            panel number:
            Samsung
            1124 lta400hm09
            p7ah 7hbf30136g f02

            inverter:
            samsung
            ss140008a01 rev 0.2
            03241awb32156h0

            main board:
            a17po-mjc
            e7215900

            power supply:
            a17po-mpw
            e7215910

            i see a 10a 125v ceramic type fuse but nothing else.
            if your sure its just the inverter board i can just replace it. shopjimmy has it
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            Last edited by ryan74; 10-24-2012, 05:00 PM.

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            • budm
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              #7
              Re: Magnavox 40mf401b/f7

              I will have to look up the panel number to see what you should have at the ERROR pin.
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

              TV Factory reset codes listing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              • ryan74
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                #8
                Re: Magnavox 40mf401b/f7

                i retested error pin grounding to chassis and got 4.8v. last time i grounded on the board

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                • budm
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                  #9
                  Re: Magnavox 40mf401b/f7

                  I cannot find the datasheet form the site that does not need you to join to get access to download the spec, Panelook.com require registration to download the spec sheet.
                  By the way, is the fuse on the inverter OK? Do you get 24VDC on both ends of the fuse?
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • ryan74
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                    #10
                    Re: Magnavox 40mf401b/f7

                    23.88v on both sides of fuse

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                    • budm
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                      #11
                      Re: Magnavox 40mf401b/f7

                      I am not 100% sure yet if the inverter is bad since I cannot really verify that the Error signal is correct or not. If the Error signal is correct then the inverter board is receiving all the correct signal and also sending out the correct signal, then the TV should not show an error code lights. I will have to look for the service manual to see what the error codes (18 blinks) mean.
                      Last edited by budm; 10-24-2012, 07:06 PM.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • ryan74
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                        #12
                        Re: Magnavox 40mf401b/f7

                        i saw codes for a similar model. code 18 was channel decoder i2c-com error with mt5112(reserved for bds modules), but that didnt seem right to me but what do i know.. thats why im here.
                        Last edited by ryan74; 10-24-2012, 07:10 PM.

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                        • ryan74
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                          #13
                          Re: Magnavox 40mf401b/f7

                          thanks for the help. I guess I may have to take a chance and buy inverter board for $40. I hope that fixes the problem. If your 80% sure I will take the chance. This model is from 2011 so I guess there isn't much info out there yet. I'm afraid of wasting $$ if its something else.
                          Anyone else have any ideas.
                          Last edited by ryan74; 10-25-2012, 11:55 AM.

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                          • ryan74
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                            Re: Magnavox 40mf401b/f7

                            I'm rushed to fix this for a friend by next weekend. Sorry if I seem impatient but do you think its worth the risk to buy the inverter board or is there something else I can check or should I shut up and wait for more help? Lol
                            Does it pay to contact magnavox support for service manual?
                            What's a good resource for thenewest models?
                            Last edited by ryan74; 10-25-2012, 01:19 PM.

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                            • budm
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                              Re: Magnavox 40mf401b/f7

                              I cannot be sure until I find out what the darn blinking mean. Do you get the same blinking code if you disconnect the power cable to the inverter board? You may have more then one problem also.
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                              • ryan74
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                                Re: Magnavox 40mf401b/f7

                                Well I talked to my friend and got the warrant/service number from his owner manual. I called and found this tv is still under warranty so they will send me packaging to ship it for repair. He just has to wait for a 3 week turnaround they said. Sorry I wasted your time but maybe this will help someone.

                                I also found out my friend tried calling the same number a while ago and they said he had to pay shipping and parts... weird I get warranty
                                Last edited by ryan74; 10-25-2012, 02:57 PM.

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                                • ryan74
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                                  Re: Magnavox 40mf401b/f7

                                  I unpluged the inverter board, plugged in power. Solid front led
                                  Turned on power, heard 1 click, red led flashed 18 times and went out
                                  Pressed power and it solid red
                                  PressedPower again, click, 18 blinks, led goes out
                                  It repeats every time

                                  Unplugge!d power
                                  Reconnected inv
                                  Reconnect power, 18 blinks
                                  Backlights comes on led goes off
                                  Pressed power, backlights go off, shutdown
                                  Front led comes on
                                  Last edited by ryan74; 10-25-2012, 04:04 PM.

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                                  • ryan74
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                                    Re: Magnavox 40mf401b/f7

                                    magnavox support first said it was covered and they would send out shipping packaging.
                                    i called today and now they said it is not covered by warranty and wont fix it.
                                    so now im back to figuring this out.
                                    when i power it up the front led blinks fast 18 times but i dont think its a code.
                                    then backlight comes on but no pic, no sound, no menu, nothing but a white screen.
                                    i rechecked voltages. last time i must have error tested on bl_sw. there next to each other.

                                    pb con to inv:
                                    pwr_sel = .77v
                                    bl_adj = .77v
                                    bl_sw = 2.97v
                                    error = 0
                                    g
                                    g
                                    g
                                    g
                                    g
                                    24v = 24v
                                    24v = 24v
                                    24v = 24v
                                    24v = 24v

                                    pb con to main board:
                                    tuner35v = 37.68v
                                    lcd+12v = 12.16v
                                    lcd+12v = 12.16v
                                    g
                                    g
                                    p_on+3.3v = 3.38v
                                    g
                                    +6.5vfor1v = 7.68v
                                    g
                                    p_on3.5vforreg = 3.5v
                                    g
                                    p_on5v = 5.2v
                                    g
                                    24vforamp = 27v

                                    pb ribbon cable to main board:
                                    g
                                    protect3 = 3.0v
                                    protect1 = 3.1v
                                    bl_sw = 3.28v
                                    bl_adj = .71
                                    pwrreset = 2.8v
                                    p_on_h2 = 3.1v
                                    p_on_h1 = 3.3v
                                    g
                                    g
                                    g
                                    all4.3v = 4.3v
                                    all4.3v = 4.3v

                                    it all looks good to me. what do you think?
                                    from the main board theres 2 ribbon cables that go to hdmi jacks and from there to top of lcd panel. does video signal travel through inverter or is that just for backlights.
                                    Last edited by ryan74; 11-01-2012, 09:47 PM.

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                                    • budm
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                                      Re: Magnavox 40mf401b/f7

                                      The inverter does have all the required signals and voltage, it looks like you just have to try the new inverter board, there is no easy way to test the lamps in the panel.
                                      Never stop learning
                                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                      • ryan74
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                                        #20
                                        Re: Magnavox 40mf401b/f7

                                        all i get is backlight. (white screen) see pic.
                                        i will start looking for one online.

                                        the lines in pic i dont see on tv
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