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  • sienoki
    sienoki
    • Jan 2012
    • 314

    #21
    Re: pioneer plasma PDP-435PE

    Originally posted by sienoki
    If i press both tv & receiver box power buttons at same time the tv led is solid red(standby) & receiver both green & red both solid..took measurements from receiver box & voltages seem to be correct on all boards...cant test the leads got no other source to try on..does it sound like tv at fault & not receiver..thx
    The AC detect pin being 2.690vdc does that seem to high??
    Im thinking maybe this receiver box needs resetting somehow..how easy is it to do & what would i need..thx
    Its got 1 of those trap switches..maybe i will give him it bk..thx
    Last edited by sienoki; 03-16-2012, 10:37 PM.

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    • tom66
      EVs Rule
      • Apr 2011
      • 32560
      • UK

      #22
      Re: pioneer plasma PDP-435PE

      No idea, just check the AC detect. The key to troubleshooting is to check one thing after another (eliminating possibilities) until you find the fault, not to try random things! The message, after all, is MR-AC, which seems to me to indicate a fault with the power supply.
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      • sienoki
        sienoki
        • Jan 2012
        • 314

        #23
        Re: pioneer plasma PDP-435PE

        Originally posted by tom66
        No idea, just check the AC detect. The key to troubleshooting is to check one thing after another (eliminating possibilities) until you find the fault, not to try random things! The message, after all, is MR-AC, which seems to me to indicate a fault with the power supply.
        The AC detect on the tv?..if so is it taking a vdc reading from any of the pin outs with AC on the tv psu..thx tom

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        • tom66
          EVs Rule
          • Apr 2011
          • 32560
          • UK

          #24
          Re: pioneer plasma PDP-435PE

          Originally posted by sienoki
          The AC detect on the tv?..if so is it taking a vdc reading from any of the pin outs with AC on the tv psu..thx tom
          On the media box. Use DC volts. Measure with power plugged in.

          Try plugging in the DVI output to another monitor, too.
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          • sienoki
            sienoki
            • Jan 2012
            • 314

            #25
            Re: pioneer plasma PDP-435PE

            Originally posted by tom66
            On the media box. Use DC volts. Measure with power plugged in.

            Try plugging in the DVI output to another monitor, too.
            Readings from 16pin on media box psu
            18.94
            gnd
            11.93
            11.93
            gnd
            7.02
            7.02
            gnd
            gnd
            14.18 not sure with this being in +3.3v- pins?
            3.41
            gnd
            gnd
            2.461-power
            .005-pd trigger
            2.690-ac detect

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            • sienoki
              sienoki
              • Jan 2012
              • 314

              #26
              Re: pioneer plasma PDP-435PE

              Originally posted by sienoki
              Readings from 16pin on media box psu
              18.94
              gnd
              11.93
              11.93
              gnd
              7.02
              7.02
              gnd
              gnd
              14.18 not sure with this being in +3.3v- pins?
              3.41
              gnd
              gnd
              2.461-power
              .005-pd trigger
              2.690-ac detect
              http://i1068.photobucket.com/albums/...5/P1000995.jpg
              http://i1068.photobucket.com/albums/...5/P1000997.jpg
              do you readings from this pinout as yet..thx

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              • sienoki
                sienoki
                • Jan 2012
                • 314

                #27
                Re: pioneer plasma PDP-435PE

                Originally posted by sienoki
                My brothers got a samsung plasma with a media box..could i try his media box with this tv?..it wouldnt knack up any settings or owt trying this?..thx
                My bros isnt a media receiver just a fancy dvd player..doh
                Last edited by sienoki; 03-17-2012, 08:11 AM.

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                • sienoki
                  sienoki
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 314

                  #28
                  Re: pioneer plasma PDP-435PE

                  Originally posted by sienoki
                  My brothers got a samsung plasma with a media box..could i try his media box with this tv?..it wouldnt knack up any settings or owt trying this?..thx
                  My bros isnt a media receiver just a fancy dvd player..doh
                  Downloaded schematics for media box & them readings seem to be correct?

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                  • sienoki
                    sienoki
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 314

                    #29
                    Re: pioneer plasma PDP-435PE

                    Originally posted by sienoki
                    Downloaded schematics for media box & them readings seem to be correct?
                    After reading quite a few findings about solid green & red lights on this receiver box its pointing towards the trap mode..i dont think my friend has had this opened before as it was heavily coated in dust..is there any other way of getting the tv to turn on without this box?..thx

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                    • tom66
                      EVs Rule
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 32560
                      • UK

                      #30
                      Re: pioneer plasma PDP-435PE

                      Have you read the service manual?

                      Do the voltages roughly correspond to pin outs?

                      Never serviced one before... wouldn't have a clue.

                      Was at Robot Club - sorry I couldn't post.
                      Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                      For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                      • tom66
                        EVs Rule
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 32560
                        • UK

                        #31
                        Re: pioneer plasma PDP-435PE

                        Have you tried plugging the DVI output on media box into an LCD monitor or another TV?
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                        • sienoki
                          sienoki
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 314

                          #32
                          Re: pioneer plasma PDP-435PE

                          Originally posted by tom66
                          Have you read the service manual?

                          Do the voltages roughly correspond to pin outs?

                          Never serviced one before... wouldn't have a clue.

                          Was at Robot Club - sorry I couldn't post.
                          Yep them readings roughly match pin outs on service manual

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                          • sienoki
                            sienoki
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 314

                            #33
                            Re: pioneer plasma PDP-435PE

                            Originally posted by tom66
                            Have you tried plugging the DVI output on media box into an LCD monitor or another TV?
                            Ive no other tv available to try dvi cable..all ive got is hdmi ports on other tvs

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                            • tom66
                              EVs Rule
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 32560
                              • UK

                              #34
                              Re: pioneer plasma PDP-435PE

                              Originally posted by sienoki
                              Yep them readings roughly match pin outs on service manual
                              Good. Now what does it say about AC detect? Does it seem right?

                              (I'm trying to get you to do this yourself, so you learn a bit about the process.)
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                              • tom66
                                EVs Rule
                                • Apr 2011
                                • 32560
                                • UK

                                #35
                                Re: pioneer plasma PDP-435PE

                                Originally posted by sienoki
                                Ive no other tv available to try dvi cable..all ive got is hdmi ports on other tvs
                                HDMI to DVI cable?

                                http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-5M-GOLD-...#ht_1922wt_956
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                                • sienoki
                                  sienoki
                                  • Jan 2012
                                  • 314

                                  #36
                                  Re: pioneer plasma PDP-435PE

                                  Originally posted by tom66
                                  Good. Now what does it say about AC detect? Does it seem right?

                                  (I'm trying to get you to do this yourself, so you learn a bit about the process.)
                                  I will read over the service manual & see if i can learn owt..thx

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                                  • sienoki
                                    sienoki
                                    • Jan 2012
                                    • 314

                                    #37
                                    Re: pioneer plasma PDP-435PE

                                    Originally posted by tom66
                                    Ive ordered that cable..thx

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                                    • sienoki
                                      sienoki
                                      • Jan 2012
                                      • 314

                                      #38
                                      Re: pioneer plasma PDP-435PE

                                      Originally posted by sienoki
                                      Ive ordered that cable..thx
                                      Without the ac detect & the standby voltages the other voltages needed wouldnt be present..so because all the voltages are correct on the main pin out im presuming the psu is in working order & the fault maybe lies elswhere in the mr box..am i correct in assuming this?..thx

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                                      • tom66
                                        EVs Rule
                                        • Apr 2011
                                        • 32560
                                        • UK

                                        #39
                                        Re: pioneer plasma PDP-435PE

                                        Originally posted by sienoki
                                        Without the ac detect & the standby voltages the other voltages needed wouldnt be present..so because all the voltages are correct on the main pin out im presuming the psu is in working order & the fault maybe lies elswhere in the mr box..am i correct in assuming this?..thx
                                        Not necessarily... There are three signals there and at least two are important. One is PD Trigger, the other is AC Detect. PD Trigger makes me thing of a signal that fires when the power supply is about to power down. (Does the box have a HDD or flash memory?) AC Detect performs a similar function.

                                        I would wait for the DVI cable and then if you get a good display I think you can rule out the media box.
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                                        • sienoki
                                          sienoki
                                          • Jan 2012
                                          • 314

                                          #40
                                          Re: pioneer plasma PDP-435PE

                                          Originally posted by tom66
                                          Not necessarily... There are three signals there and at least two are important. One is PD Trigger, the other is AC Detect. PD Trigger makes me thing of a signal that fires when the power supply is about to power down. (Does the box have a HDD or flash memory?) AC Detect performs a similar function.

                                          I would wait for the DVI cable and then if you get a good display I think you can rule out the media box.
                                          Hi tom..no harddrive or flash memory fella..will leave the set till cable arrives..have you ever come across this trap switch before?..all info on tinternet applies to remote sequence tried this & no good..1 tv tech said solid red & green & MR in some shut down mode??anyways thx 4 info so far mucka

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