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  • jimmyplumb
    Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 23
    • England

    #1

    Synchronous motor

    My daughter has given me a project as her husband seems to have messed things up. The project is a Christmas tree! stand. ie:- one that the light on it continually turn colour by means of. A 12v light, A 12v 6a synchronous motor with a coloured disk on top that spins & changes the light's colouring
    The problem is her husband has been messing with the wiring & I need to
    reconnect every thing but using copper strip board but I need a diagram to work to. On The original board there is 4 x 400 diodes 1 x 470 capacitor in the circuit. the power is 240-12v ac adaptor. The contents are 1 x 12v led light ,1 x 12v d fan for cooling & 1 x TYC-40 12v 6a 1-2w 50/60 Hz synchronous motor

    I don't know if the following drawing helps

    Any help would be very welcome

    Jim
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  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #2
    Re: Synchronous motor

    The motor wire with ??? should go to the 12V LIVE, another wire of the motor is already connected to the 12NEUTRAL through the Thermal fuse per your drawing.
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    • jimmyplumb
      Member
      • Mar 2013
      • 23
      • England

      #3
      Re: Synchronous motor

      Many thanks for your reply budm. Are all the other connection correct


      Jim

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      • jimmyplumb
        Member
        • Mar 2013
        • 23
        • England

        #4
        Re: Synchronous motor

        I have connected wiring as per drawing attachment but motor will not turn where have I gone wrong?

        Any help would be appreciated


        Jim
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        • selldoor
          Slow Learner
          • Dec 2010
          • 7870

          #5
          Re: Synchronous motor

          Did the lights/fan come on?

          Just checking it has a 12vAC adapter and is a 12vAC motor

          Does the motor work if you just connect it direct to the power supply

          Is the thermal fuse resettable - check it is reset
          Last edited by selldoor; 02-06-2014, 09:45 AM.
          Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Synchronous motor

            New drawing is not right, D3 Cathode should be connected to the Cathode of D1 not D2.
            Do you get 12VAC at the motor lead wires? if you do, then the motor is bad. Thermal fuse is OK?
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
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            • jimmyplumb
              Member
              • Mar 2013
              • 23
              • England

              #7
              Re: Synchronous motor

              Slight mistake on previous see amended diagram also the adaptor is 240-12dc

              The fuse is tested okay as well as diodes & capacitor

              jim
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              • budm
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2010
                • 40746
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Synchronous motor

                "240-12dc"??? I thought you have indicated that it is 12VAC, your 12VAC motor will not run on DC, the windings will get hot if it has low DCR when you feed DC to the motor.
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • selldoor
                  Slow Learner
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 7870

                  #9
                  Re: Synchronous motor

                  As I said better check if the motor is AC or DC

                  I have made the same mistake - not actually trying to power it but got a christmas tree
                  off freecycle then had to buy an AC adapter - never even thought about 12v not being DC
                  Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                  • jimmyplumb
                    Member
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 23
                    • England

                    #10
                    Re: Synchronous motor

                    You are dead right.I never even thought about it my self what a tit I am. I will get on ebay and get one asp many thanks


                    Jim

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