Re: Supermicro PWS-0060 *failure*, please advise
When you open it up, do you see any bad soldering?
When you open it up, do you see any bad soldering?
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Re: Supermicro PWS-0060 *failure*, please advise
i have seen a few liteon units with very poor soldering.
fixed a neighbors liteon and when i pulled the pcb i commented it looked like a 2 year old with a cold iron and plumbing solder had built it.
he commented that it looked like a mud dauber had been working on it.
had one in a hp that had missing +3.3
bad solder joints and crap caps.
stay tuned for a ablecom dissapointment i got in last week.looks like a deer board inside!Comment
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Re: Supermicro PWS-0060 *failure*, please advise
Wow man...doesn't look like the insides of my unit?
The winding on the toroidal inductor, in the last picture is just garbage. Who-ever winded that coil should be shot.
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Re: Supermicro PWS-0060 *failure*, please advise
If the +3.3V O/P is mag-amp regulated, it sounds like the transistor driving the mag-amp inductor is either shorted or turned full on by whatever is driving it.PeteS in CA
Power Supplies should be boring: No loud noises, no bright flashes, and no bad smells.
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Re: Supermicro PWS-0060 *failure*, please advise
Ha hahaha, does everyone know what a "mud dauber" is? Ha hahaOriginally posted by kc8aduJimComment
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Re: Supermicro PWS-0060 *failure*, please advise
LOL Arneson.Originally posted by arneson
I always thought it was one of these wasps but now you simply *have* to tell me what I'm missing
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Both the 3.3v and 5v have sense wires running back from the EPS connector to the PCB - can we assume that both be mag-amp regulated, or is something else at play here?Originally posted by PeteS in CAComment
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Re: Supermicro PWS-0060 *failure*, please advise
T, I don't have specific knowledge of this P/S, but unless it's a fairly high-end supply, I'm assuming it has a single main regulator, usually sensing the +5V and +12V. The other O/Ps are post-regulated - the -5V (if it has it) and -12V by 3-T regulators and the +3.3V by a mag-amp regulator.
Winding toroidal inductor with multiple windings with different numbers of turns and different wire gauges is seldom neat; making 10s of thousands of inductors a month is no mean task, either.The winding on the toroidal inductor, in the last picture is just garbage. Who-ever winded that coil should be shot.Last edited by PeteS in CA; 07-28-2006, 09:09 PM.PeteS in CA
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Re: Supermicro PWS-0060 *failure*, please advise
Thanks Pete for your advice... I'll be taking a look at it more closely now - componentwise it really seems *very* solid, I'm expecting a poor solder joint somewhere or other soldering-related issue as KC8 warned.
The inductors on my unit aren't badly wound at all, in fact. It's probably luck of the draw, as you said.Originally posted by PeteSinCAComment
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The bug is not so funny, but the nest is a big wad of crap, filled with larvae.Originally posted by tiresias
I'm still LOL.Attached FilesJimComment
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No comment on the inductor windings since I've seen a lot worse on a lot more expensive units.
As long as there's no "slack"....Rest in peace BFG. You were... a job...Comment
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Re: Supermicro PWS-0060 *failure*, please advise
Guys, this is my first server unit. Any ideas on why there is no power switch? I'm still a bit bummed by this.
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Hehe... because servers shouldn't be turned off?Originally posted by Super NadeGuys, this is my first server unit. Any ideas on why there is no power switch? I'm still a bit bummed by this.
It can be annoying, yes. I had a separate switch on my surge suppressor for the socket to which I connected it so it wasn't really a problem. Perhaps you could do the same?
A question: does your 0056 model also have the fan running (at low speed) all the time, even when it's only providing 5Vsb?Comment
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I can answer that: Yes. The fan runs all of the time. Fire up the PC and it spins full RPM for about two seconds and then comes down to a bout 75% RPM.Originally posted by tiresiasHehe... because servers shouldn't be turned off?
It can be annoying, yes. I had a separate switch on my surge suppressor for the socket to which I connected it so it wasn't really a problem. Perhaps you could do the same?
A question: does your 0056 model also have the fan running (at low speed) all the time, even when it's only providing 5Vsb?Rest in peace BFG. You were... a job...Comment
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Roger that. Exactly as Jonny said. It is whisper quiet, when compared to my x1800xl's scramjet HSF. That thing (x1800xl) is so loud at start up that I could hear it outside my lab.
Jonny, do you think I would trip something up if I unhook the fans and rewire it so that both fans are being used? This redunantant fan stuff is not my style. If there is a fan I see, it should be spinning. I hate lazy ass fans.
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I actually took one of eVGA 7800GTX's out of my machine simply because of noise. I'm eventually going to water cool the other.
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Re: Supermicro PWS-0060 *failure*, please advise
How long have you had the GTX? Maybe you can step it up to the 79xxx ?Q6700 @ 3.6 GHz
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About the revision question:
I see where yours has "REV 3.0". My unit has nothing there, ie. just white space on the label.Comment
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Fake! Fake Fake!!!
Another very very strange thing I noticed. The 12V line dropped to almost 0V for a fraction of a second, when I rebooted the now OC'ed Prescott !!
Config:
1 stick of 1Gb DDR2
1 7800GT
1 Presscot @ 1.5125V VCore, 4160 MHz.
WTF is going on here?Q6700 @ 3.6 GHz
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Surely it would have gone out had that been the case? Are you sure your multimeter/oscilloscope connection didn't come loose for a moment?Originally posted by Super NadeComment
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