Re: Fake primary capacitors
Someone trying to fake Capxon... Priceless
Someone trying to fake Capxon... Priceless
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I know this is an old thread but wanted to share some...These caps came out of Coolmax, L&C, Sun Pro, and Logisys PSU'sAttached FilesComment
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Wow, more fakery (is that even a word, btw?). I guess from now on, when I see primary caps from unknown Chinese manufacturer, I will just assume the capacitance is 1 level lower than what is printed on the sleeve. Even though it may not be the case for every cheap cap brand, I think it's a safe assumption regardless.Comment
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That's a good assumption. Unfortunately it depends...Another 470uF HEC input cap that was black instead of blue was actually 470uF. And a CS cap that I figured would be fake was its actual value. I wish they were more consistent!!!Comment
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Weird!
Or, WHAT THE HEC!
Even the fuhjyyu is overrated! :PMuh-soggy-kneeComment
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The Fuhjyyu is actually within tolerance (barely...), so it isn't necessarily fraudulently labelled.Comment
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Yeah you're right. I measured the other one that ran along side it and it measured 433uF so I assumed they were really 470's
I should have posted the picture of that one
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No-one would be dumb enough to fake a Fuhjyyu. Although, one could probably dress up a Fuhjyyu as a KZG and no-one would know the difference.
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People have to remember most manufacturers don't care about Fuhjyuu caps -- they use them because they're cheap. And I'll bet they're easier to fake as there's less vigilance over them. So if supplier X suddenly has a large supply of Fuhjuuu and the procurement manufacturer can get a raise by dropping the per-unit cost by 20 cents then you will see fake Fuhjyoo.Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.Comment
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I found these fake Rubycon snap-in units in two identical Chinese power supplies.
Officially, Rubycon USP only comes in 85C whereas these fakes (both USP series) were labelled 105C.Attached FilesMy first choice in quality Japanese electrolytics is Nippon Chemi-Con, which has been in business since 1931... the quality of electronics is dependent on the quality of the electrolytics.Comment
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Those are some decent looking fakes. Also curious to know their actual capacitanceComment
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The JEE 330uF 200V primaries which came out of this trashed King World ATX-250W PSU measured at 202.8uF and 198.8uF respectively, both with an ESR of 0.07 ohms and a date code of 9828. No doubt they are 220s with a 330uF label, as they are still in tolerance of said capacitance.
Same again with Su'scon. The two 470uF 200V LXs I ripped from an L&C LC-230ATX were measured at 312.0uF and 319.9uF respectively; both 0.06 ohms ESR. As with the above caps, they are well within tolerance... of a 330uF capacitor. This PSU was also from 1998.Comment
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That line through the side of the 'Mercedes' vent looks like they tried to turn it into a K shape to match what a Rubycon should have.Comment
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They are still doing this. Cap was manufactured the first week of 2013.Attached FilesComment
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I posted this in the hall of shame but figured might as well add it to this thread as well. Came out of a LeadmanAttached FilesComment
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Hello,
First, I am a complete noob with high voltage stuff. I'm learning, but I need help by someone looking over my shoulder.
I recently came into posession of a Heathkit IO-4205 5MHz Dual Trace Oscilloscope. The documentation is copyright 1978. I'm told it works.
I opened it up to check the caps before I applied power, and found the following black caps and wanted to know what they were. They are on the power supply board. I was able to read the name and model and came up with, "Nytronics 162J-1, 0.1uF, 20% tolerance, 2000VDC."
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I know I've been a little scarce lately (like the last 2-3 years), but I'm still here and still doing my thing with fixing PSUs.
For today's considerations, I have a Seasonic B12 BC-550 [A551bcafh] 550 Watt ATX power supply for you (click on links for full size images).
https://www.badcaps.net/filedata/fetch?id=3591771
https://www.badcaps.net/filedata/fetch?id=3591772
It's a modern ATX unit with fixed (non-modular) cables and an 80-plus bronze certificate. Here's the label:
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Hello!
I have two projects on my work bench. One is a friends dead JBL Xtreme speaker with a blown voltage regulator and corresponding bulged and shorted cap. That cap has clear markings so I know what replacement I need for it.
The other project however is a whole different deal. It's a Zoom 9000 guitar effect from the 90th that has developed a devil hound howl when there is no input from the guitar. I'm guessing caps problem. So, since I don't really use this effect anymore I thought it would be a perfect project to learn on.
I have studied the board and... -
I decided to take one of the Rubycon capacitors out of a phat Xbox 360 with a Zephyr motherboard and noticed that all the Rubycon capacitors near the CPU were fake. The capacitors in question are Rubycon MFZ 680uf 6.3V and they all have a bullseye bottom, something not found in genuine Rubycon capacitors. None of them were leaking, they all have the K top, and the system has never been opened before. It appears Microsoft was using fake capacitors in the Xbox 360, or the Chinese facility where the console was manufactured in was using them and passing them off a genuine. Just thought I'd share... -
Good evening
I recently aquired a rev 1.1 Gigabyte 60XT, and was suprised of the amount of leaking caps for a motherboard of the P3 era. Especially the way the 330µf caps seems like the housing discolored even.
Now, there are some 3300µF 6.3V KZG series around the CPU. Would it be OK to replace them with something like EEUFR1A332 ? (Panasonic FR 3300µF 10V). Or was this board designed around very low ESR caps?
But I was also suprised about the bigger boys, which are 330µF 25V.
Could it be they used 25V caps because they were cheaper / available at that time?...
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