Latest FSPxxx-xxGLC/GLN models have relatively small heat sinks. What's going on?

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  • frankgehry
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    • Mar 2006
    • 4

    #1

    Latest FSPxxx-xxGLC/GLN models have relatively small heat sinks. What's going on?

    By all accounts the new FSP models are excellent. How then are they getting away with smaller heat sinks?. I always thought a heavier psu was an indicator of quality.
  • willawake
    Super Modulator
    • Nov 2003
    • 8457
    • Greece

    #2
    Re: Latest FSPxxx-xxGLC/GLN models have relatively small heat sinks. What's going on?

    like this?

    capacitor lab yachtmati techmati

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    • Oklahoma Wolf
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Dec 2005
      • 353

      #3
      Re: Latest FSPxxx-xxGLC/GLN models have relatively small heat sinks. What's going on?

      Originally posted by frankgehry
      How then are they getting away with smaller heat sinks?.
      Xbit Labs reviewed the 700W and somewhat reverse engineered it. Basically, they're using a higher switching frequency and higher quality parts on the output side. Very efficient.

      The above pic is of my FSP600-80GLC

      Review of the Epsilon 700W can be found in here: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/oth...u-roundup.html

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      • Per Hansson
        Super Moderator
        • Jul 2005
        • 5895
        • Sweden

        #4
        Re: Latest FSPxxx-xxGLC/GLN models have relatively small heat sinks. What's going on?

        Higher Efficiency=less heat....
        "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

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        • PeteS in CA
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          • Aug 2005
          • 3579
          • USA, Unsure of Planet

          #5
          Re: Latest FSPxxx-xxGLC/GLN models have relatively small heat sinks. What's going on?

          Hmmm ... higher switch frequency can mean a smaller transformer, but unless the switch devices and O/P rectifiers are faster, a higher switch frequency can mean higher losses. OTOH, if larger fans are used - e.g 120mm instead of 80mm - airflow may be greater and the heatsinks may be more effective.
          PeteS in CA

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          • gonzo0815
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            • Feb 2006
            • 1600

            #6
            Re: Latest FSPxxx-xxGLC/GLN models have relatively small heat sinks. What's going on?

            I as far as i know this is due the new environmental and disposal guidlines. This mean that the wight should be minimized too. At least for the Freierde PSU i have read those statements. Inmy opinion not that good, byt anyway, i thrust in FSP knowledge on this side. If they are suinbg a active clamping technik with mosfets, than there are mutch fewer losses an thus this should be ok, but i doubt they do so..

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            • willawake
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              • Nov 2003
              • 8457
              • Greece

              #7
              Re: Latest FSPxxx-xxGLC/GLN models have relatively small heat sinks. What's going on?

              nice article. xbit labs is always great to read. it says they are using smaller O/P rectifiers but more of them than usually expected and in parallel.
              capacitor lab yachtmati techmati

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              • gonzo0815
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                • Feb 2006
                • 1600

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                Re: Latest FSPxxx-xxGLC/GLN models have relatively small heat sinks. What's going on?

                After reading that xbit arcticle, i am a litle bit dissapointed that FSP don`t use active clamping in that high end unit. I think if they replaced the secondary diodes with an fast and realy low RDSon mosfet this unit could be in the 90% + efficiency area. I haven`t thought, that those high w and super efficient psu units going on in using simple shotky diodes. I deed, active clamping will cost a few bukc`S more for those high A mosfets, but i think for 180$ this should be easily possible to build.
                Until i read this arctilce, i always thought that it dosn`t mather how mutch diodes there will be in parallel, as the loss is always the same. Only heat will be distributed about a bigger cooling area, but as far as i think the absolut losses won`t be reduced. May be i try that with some chepo PSU, adding some Diodes in paralle would be a cheap and easy mod if that will improve the efficiency.
                Last edited by gonzo0815; 04-05-2006, 04:54 AM.

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