Tagan to deliver 900w and 1100w PSUs

[jonnyGURU]

Re: Tagan to deliver 900w and 1100w PSUs

So what ever happenned to the saying you get what you payfor??

Would you really want a $150 1100w Tagen PSU in your system or powering vital components??

I am just asking...

I am here to learn and ask questions??

Well I just have to wonder where Tagan is getting their specs. Topower isn't always the "most honest" with their specs.

When it comes to behemoth PSU's, I have to give Hiper credit. They're using an Andyson AD-800 as a frame (as far as I can tell) but because the heatsinks had to be cut down to accomodate the space the modular connectors take, and I'm sure because of the resistance the modular connectors create, they only rate the PSU as a 730W. This is a product that Tagan wouldn't hesitate to call a 1000W because it can actually do 1000W @ 230V input in a 20C chamber.

Hmmm.......

[Elitist]

Re: Tagan to deliver 900w and 1100w PSUs

Not quite sure what you are saying about Hiper??
They are heavy, all component slots filled and expensive. But no better than the rest.
One of theirs had the 12V line incorrectly set and required a resistor change and its pot. reset to bring it into range (which it was entirely capable of running at). This is utterly inexcusable - even for a rogue sample, if it has its QC disc attached.
Then there's the infamous Fuhjyyu caps they use - all the usual symptoms, familiar bulging, etc.
The one I'm working on at present has another fault yet to be diagnosed.
My experience has been that you do NOT 'get what you pay for'. Might as well buy any old Deer/L&C, replace all the caps and away you go at a fraction of the price!!!! Cheap to buy, cheap to repair, cheap to replace.....

[jonnyGURU]

Re: Tagan to deliver 900w and 1100w PSUs

Where the heck did that post come from?

You're right... You're obviously "not quite sure" what I'm saying about Hiper. So I'm not sure what your interjection was for. But I see that my post was a bit fragmented, so I do somewhat understand.

Like all other PSU manufacturers out there, Hiper is a full line. I'm sure you're addressing a specific model, just as I was specifically talking about the yet-to-be-released BTX 730W one with the "cow-udder" modulars. It uses a modified Andyson AD-800 frame.

What's the model of the one sitting on your bench?

IMHO, their modular design has yet to be "fixed" (unless they "fixed" it with the 730W. I haven't seen a close up shot of the modular connectors.) They had been reducing all like wires (all 12V's, all grounds, etc.) into a single connection (for example: the PCI is 6-pin on one end, but only 3 on the other. Three 12V and three grounds are merged into two 12V and one ground.) Georg Ohm would have a field day with Hiper.

Their "Type-R" has a whole other issue with me: The product line's wattage claims are rated at 230V input, 20C, peak (not continuous) so the "wattage" claim they make on their label is about 20% higher that what it should be and their low end units are... well... low end (like the HPU-3S350 that Oleg reviewed here: http://xbitlabs.com/articles/other/d...n-hiper_4.html that I'm convinced is nothing more than a relabeled AD-250.)

[Elitist]

Re: Tagan to deliver 900w and 1100w PSUs

Sorry if this item appears in the 'wrong' place. I did a 'Search' for Hiper and yours was the closest match of two to what I wanted to report. SF-350TS.
I suggest we ask the Moderators to relocate my entry if you feel this would be more appropriate.
As for BTX, let's hope the entire concept disappears into the ether.
Thank you.

[jonnyGURU]

Re: Tagan to deliver 900w and 1100w PSUs

Oh... Ok. I was the victim of a search result. I see.

Yeah. The SF-350TS is pretty low end. All of the "gray box" Hiper's I'm convinced are relabeled (labeled peak instead of continuous) low end Andyson's.

They reflect poorly on Andyson and Hiper.

But I think most of those are only found bundled within cases, are they not?

And as far as BTX goes: Sorry. Intel said they're going all BTX as of next year. With reference boards for future chipsets being BTX because of this, it's only natural to conclude that 3rd party Intelc chipset based boards will also be BTX as of Q4 2007.

At least there's convertible cases. I recently got my hands on one of these and it's SWEETNESS! http://www.casetek.com.tw/super/ck-1022-6a.htm

All 1.0m steel, though. Weighs 35 pounds empty!!!

[Elitist]

Re: Tagan to deliver 900w and 1100w PSUs

Victim - try it for yourself!!
Not in the UK - Hiper are sold as oem, retail and replacement - at far too high a price. I have always warned to ignore fancy labels and gilt finishes. They lie.
Glad to hear that Intel will be BTX - I never use Intel. If AMD switch, we should all be on ITX from VIA by then. Will be able to resurrect my excellent little 60/90W units!!
As for cases, I've always been happier the thinner the steel gets. Saves weight, saves transport costs, saves steel costs, saves the planet (?). Ask youself, is it intended that you or your elephant would want to sit on it? The number of those answering in the affirmative may be vanishingly small?

[willawake]

Re: Tagan to deliver 900w and 1100w PSUs

Hiper are sold here as



480w no udders or tool box - 90 euro



580w udders and toolbox - 115 euro

[Elitist]

Re: Tagan to deliver 900w and 1100w PSUs

Now that chip designers have succeeded in getting water to flow uphill in small channels (Phys Rev Let, this week), BTX becomes unnecessary. It never was necessary, anyway. Just that Intel failed (again) with their heat balance designs, failed to engage a fluid dynamics engineer to design their boxes and failed to employ competent staff to design their chipsets and boards. And if anyone tells me again about how good their engineers are, I shall scream! How many cpu recalls? Is that an Opteron I see inside their servers? Is that AMD 64bit code they've had to license? Is that a purple haze over their research facility.....

[JEDIYoda]

Re: Tagan to deliver 900w and 1100w PSUs

Tagan is Topower - I've seen Teapo in them quite a bit lately.

For some reason certain PSu`s have no issues with TEAPO Caps...

Thus IMO it would behoove you to NOT lump all PSU manufacturers that use TEAPO Caps as being crappy PSU`s!!

I am sure there are others who have had NO issues with PSU`s that use TEAPO Caps!!

[Shroomie]

Re: Tagan to deliver 900w and 1100w PSUs

I know my God Knows What-Brand has been fine with its Teapos. Sold as a CompUSA 400w, in truth closer to a 350w. But it's served me well...

I'll figure it out eventually. I don't have the original cover, that's the problem.

[jonnyGURU]

Re: Tagan to deliver 900w and 1100w PSUs

I'm pretty sure the Teapo issue is limited to motheboards. I could be wrong, but I think Teapos are rated for what they're labeled at and nothing more. Other high-end caps, like Chemi-Con's, have a degree of wiggle room upwards. So if the mobo manufacturer uses Teapos that are inapporiate for the application, they eventually pop. Replacing them with better caps, even of the same value, installs longevity that was not previously there.