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  • sansonet
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Nov 2013
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    #1

    Converting 12VDC transformer to 12VAC

    I need an AC transformer because the one I used is burned. Since I have some unused DC transformers, I wonder if it is possible to just remove the bridge rectifier from it to convert it to an AC transformer. I measured voltage before the rectifier on this one - it shows 13 VAC, and 16 VDC at connector without load. Rated 12VDC 1000mA.
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  • petehall347
    Badcaps Legend
    • Jan 2015
    • 4422
    • United Kingdom

    #2
    Re: Converting 12VDC transformer to 12VAC

    yes remove the board and try a load test .

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    • CapLeaker
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      • Dec 2014
      • 7964
      • Canada

      #3
      Re: Converting 12VDC transformer to 12VAC

      a lot of electronics that require AC actually have a bridge rectifier installed inside and the brick is AC( like a modem). If there is a bridge rectifier in that piece of electronics you are trying to plug in, just plug in the DC transformer. Polarity doesn't matter, since the bridge rectifier inside the electronic piece is going to take care of it.

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      • sansonet
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        • Nov 2013
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        #4
        Re: Converting 12VDC transformer to 12VAC

        This is not for electronic devices, just LED lights. I know it sounds weird since LED is meant to work with DC I have a set of garden lights, originally the wiring and power were for old iridescent bulbs, during the years I had it I changed it to LEDs, added more, replaced some, etc. A lot of it soldered to wires. I never paid mind to polarity since it still worked from the original AC transformer. But lighting killed the transformer after many years. I replaced it with another AC transformer. But one rodent chewed wires under the porch (not buried), at the soldering point. Not sure why. It had heatshrink tubing with adhesive on it - does anybody have any idea why the rodent likes it? I have a field near my house, blueberries, etc - Im sure herbivore creatures can't be that starving in the summertime. Anyway, it shorted wires and destroyed the transformer. I can resolder all wires to proper polarity and use a DC adapter, but this will be too much hassle and time-consuming. Getting an AC transformer is a lot easier at this moment (maybe one day I will get to it )
        I removed the rectifier from that DC transformer, and connected it to the lights - it reads 12.6 VAC, 0.42A (measured with a fluke clamp meter). One that the rodent killed was rated 12VAC, 1000mA, and connected to lights measured 14VAC, 0.50A. Is it OK to use it?
        Last edited by sansonet; 06-30-2023, 07:41 AM.

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        • sansonet
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Nov 2013
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          #5
          Re: Converting 12VDC transformer to 12VAC

          I just opened the damaged transformer, and found a thermal fuse in it. Jumped fuse wires, plugged it in - it works I guess, I can fix it, just need to find a fuse.

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          • sam_sam_sam
            Badcaps Legend
            • Jul 2011
            • 6018
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            #6
            Re: Converting 12VDC transformer to 12VAC

            I would caution you against leaving it this way if you plan on keeping it plugged in the outlet 24 hours 7 days a week 365 days a year

            If you plan on using it like that put another thermo fuse back in for safety reasons

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            • sam_sam_sam
              Badcaps Legend
              • Jul 2011
              • 6018
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              #7
              Re: Converting 12VDC transformer to 12VAC

              Originally posted by sansonet
              This is not for electronic devices, just LED lights. I know it sounds weird since LED is meant to work with DC I have a set of garden lights, originally the wiring and power were for old iridescent bulbs, during the years I had it I changed it to LEDs, added more, replaced some, etc. A lot of it soldered to wires. I never paid mind to polarity since it still worked from the original AC transformer. But lighting killed the transformer after many years. I replaced it with another AC transformer. But one rodent chewed wires under the porch (not buried), at the soldering point. Not sure why. It had heatshrink tubing with adhesive on it - does anybody have any idea why the rodent likes it? I have a field near my house, blueberries, etc - Im sure herbivore creatures can't be that starving in the summertime. Anyway, it shorted wires and destroyed the transformer. I can resolder all wires to proper polarity and use a DC adapter, but this will be too much hassle and time-consuming. Getting an AC transformer is a lot easier at this moment (maybe one day I will get to it )
              I removed the rectifier from that DC transformer, and connected it to the lights - it reads 12.6 VAC, 0.42A (measured with a fluke clamp meter). One that the rodent killed was rated 12VAC, 1000mA, and connected to lights measured 14VAC, 0.50A. Is it OK to use it?
              I do not know what possess rats to be attracted to low voltage wiring but they are I have seen this a few times in the past

              As far as the question about the replacement transformer probably be ok but make sure that you are not over driving the LED lights current because as you know this kills them earlier than was intended even if this means that you put a current limiting resistor on each LED circuit

              Those transformer that you have in the picture above are terrible about over heating when loaded lightly I have some of the same type and I personally do not use them other than for testing purposes only
              Last edited by sam_sam_sam; 06-30-2023, 06:31 PM.

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              • sansonet
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                • Nov 2013
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                #8
                Re: Converting 12VDC transformer to 12VAC

                Originally posted by sam_sam_sam
                I would caution you against leaving it this way if you plan on keeping it plugged in the outlet 24 hours 7 days a week 365 days a year

                If you plan on using it like that put another thermo fuse back in for safety reasons
                Of course, I will not use it without a fuse, already ordered one. Im using a photosensor switch so it gets power at night only.

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                • sansonet
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                  • Nov 2013
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                  #9
                  Re: Converting 12VDC transformer to 12VAC

                  Originally posted by sam_sam_sam
                  I do not know what possess rats to be attracted to low voltage wiring but they are I have seen this a few times in the past
                  Not rats, I don't have rats here. We have voles, field/deer mice, and rabbits. It happened in the daytime. Definitely rodent because it has teeth marks.

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                  • stj
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                    • Dec 2009
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                    • Albion

                    #10
                    Re: Converting 12VDC transformer to 12VAC

                    remember you can kill a thermal fuse with the soldering!

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                    • petehall347
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Jan 2015
                      • 4422
                      • United Kingdom

                      #11
                      Re: Converting 12VDC transformer to 12VAC

                      crimp the thermal fuse dont solder

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                      • sansonet
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                        • Nov 2013
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                        #12
                        Re: Converting 12VDC transformer to 12VAC

                        I soldered thermal fuses in the past, no issues so far. Im using those clips when dealing with heat-sensitive components - it helps a lot


                        https://www.amazon.com/H-2SL-Goot-He.../dp/B001PR1KNS

                        I ordered a pack of 10 anyway - a lot of spares if something will go wrong

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