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  • usyusy
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2021
    • 171
    • Pakistan

    #1

    Acer aspire one not power on

    Acer aspire one (LA-5141P, KAV60) not getting powered-on,. Any guidance please.

    Some testing are:
    Rtc Crystal and IO crystal 32khz ok
    3v & 5v ok, VL ok
    Cmos battery removed
    Before pressing, dc supply shows 0.002A
    after pressing power button led on it glows for few seconds then off and board does not power-on
    Attached Files
  • mon2
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    • Dec 2019
    • 14371
    • Canada

    #2
    Re: Acer aspire one not power on

    See attached. Review the details of PQ10 DCIN mosfet.

    Post the voltages on the pins shown with the arrows.

    Next, remove all power -> check the resistance across the mosfet pins.

    See the many other threads here on how to test the resistance to confirm if the mosfet is defective or not.
    Attached Files

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    • mcplslg123
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      • Jun 2015
      • 7262
      • india

      #3
      Re: Acer aspire one not power on

      What is the consumption when u turn on? I'm interested in the variation of consumption between on and off mode. What rails are coming up and what not(after pressing power switch)??

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      • usyusy
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        • Sep 2021
        • 171
        • Pakistan

        #4
        Re: Acer aspire one not power on

        Originally posted by mon2
        See attached. Review the details of PQ10 DCIN mosfet.

        Post the voltages on the pins shown with the arrows.

        Next, remove all power -> check the resistance across the mosfet pins.

        See the many other threads here on how to test the resistance to confirm if the mosfet is defective or not.
        Sir, on PQ10 DC IN mosfet:
        Voltages on
        Source: 19.7
        Gate. 7.8
        Drain. 19.7

        Resistence: on 200k settings:

        Drain & source 44.3 k
        Source & gate 81.6 k
        Gate & drain (on 2M setting): 590 k

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        • usyusy
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2021
          • 171
          • Pakistan

          #5
          Re: Acer aspire one not power on

          Originally posted by mcplslg123
          What is the consumption when u turn on? I'm interested in the variation of consumption between on and off mode. What rails are coming up and what not(after pressing power switch)??
          Sir, when turn on (which sometime not so have to unlpug and then plug to be able to trigger)
          Only 0.03A and then again on 0.02A.
          Only 19v, 3v and 5v available before and after pressing power button no other voltages show on any other coil.

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          • mon2
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            • Dec 2019
            • 14371
            • Canada

            #6
            Re: Acer aspire one not power on

            Replace PQ10. The resistance is too low to be a good mosfet.

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            • usyusy
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2021
              • 171
              • Pakistan

              #7
              Re: Acer aspire one not power on

              Originally posted by mon2
              Replace PQ10. The resistance is too low to be a good mosfet.
              Replaced with a scrap board mosfet

              Drain & source 49.6k
              Gate & source 81.6k
              Gate & drain 640k

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              • mon2
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                • Dec 2019
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                #8
                Re: Acer aspire one not power on

                Measure the resistance of the removed mosfet while it is off the logic board.

                Post the readings.

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                • lapfix
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                  • Mar 2020
                  • 2744
                  • my workshop

                  #9
                  Re: Acer aspire one not power on

                  Originally posted by mon2
                  Replace PQ10. The resistance is too low to be a good mosfet.
                  Why yo judge that's not perfect !!

                  how much will be find to be sure !

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                  • mon2
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                    • Dec 2019
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                    #10
                    Re: Acer aspire one not power on

                    See here:

                    http://electronicsbeliever.com/how-t...-is-defective/

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                    • lapfix
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                      • Mar 2020
                      • 2744
                      • my workshop

                      #11
                      Re: Acer aspire one not power on

                      Originally posted by mon2
                      yes i know this site , it was a nice advice from you from another thread....but still confuse , the reading of usyusy are perfect to me...did you compare it with another same mosfet or from mosfet datasheet

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                      • mon2
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                        • Dec 2019
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                        #12
                        Re: Acer aspire one not power on

                        did you compare it with another same mosfet or from mosfet datasheet
                        No. Do not have these parts here but expecting a much higher resistance reading for the same measurements (100kohms++).

                        Since the resistance checks are similar for both parts on the logic board, the mosfet may be ok but let us wait on the OP to post the resistance values of the mosfet while it is out of circuit.

                        The support components on the logic board may be influencing the resistance values.

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                        • usyusy
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                          • Sep 2021
                          • 171
                          • Pakistan

                          #13
                          Re: Acer aspire one not power on

                          Drain & source 44.7k
                          Gate & drain & source showing 1, not any movement on multimeter

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                          • mon2
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                            • Dec 2019
                            • 14371
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                            #14
                            Re: Acer aspire one not power on

                            IMHO - the resistance is too low for source & drain. Is it possible that the replacements were also defective ?

                            Would you have fresh mosfets you can test here ? Before soldering them, check their resistance while they are out of circuit.

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                            • usyusy
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2021
                              • 171
                              • Pakistan

                              #15
                              Re: Acer aspire one not power on

                              Replacement done with another mos

                              Drain & source 322 k
                              Gate & drain 588 k
                              Gate & source 197 k

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                              • mon2
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                                • Dec 2019
                                • 14371
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                                #16
                                Re: Acer aspire one not power on

                                Ok. What mosfet was used for the replacement ? Share the part number.

                                With the new mosfet, what are the results ?

                                What are the voltages on the source, gate, drain pins of this mosfet ?

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                                • usyusy
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Sep 2021
                                  • 171
                                  • Pakistan

                                  #17
                                  Re: Acer aspire one not power on

                                  Originally posted by mon2
                                  Ok. What mosfet was used for the replacement ? Share the part number.

                                  With the new mosfet, what are the results ?

                                  What are the voltages on the source, gate, drain pins of this mosfet ?
                                  Its was Pbyhd fds 6679az something written on it, pic attached
                                  Results are same

                                  Voltage :
                                  Source 19.7v
                                  Drain. 19.7v
                                  Gate. 7.7v
                                  Attached Files

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                                  • mon2
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                                    • Dec 2019
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                                    #18
                                    Re: Acer aspire one not power on

                                    So the voltage is passing between source & drain.

                                    Do you always see the voltage on both sides of the mosfet ? Or does it power OFF after a few seconds like before ?

                                    What is the voltage of the main rail @ CHG_B ?

                                    While the power rail is ON, check the voltage of each inductor to confirm that each respective power rail is working.

                                    Report any 0 volt or low voltage rail that may be faulty.

                                    Any liquid damage ? Just stopped working one day ? Using the original power adapter ?

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                                    • usyusy
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Sep 2021
                                      • 171
                                      • Pakistan

                                      #19
                                      Re: Acer aspire one not power on

                                      yes sir on both sides of mosfet the voltage seems always, CHG_B main rail shows 19.5v, before and after power button press only 3v,5v rails remains on no other rail appears on any inductor, board showed some carbon around IO, so washed , yes just stopped one day, using original adapter even dc supply was used.

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                                      • mon2
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                                        • Dec 2019
                                        • 14371
                                        • Canada

                                        #20
                                        Re: Acer aspire one not power on

                                        Does the gate voltage change on PQ10 mosfet when you press the on/off button ? It should to allow for the logic board to turn ON/OFF.

                                        The io controller may need to be reprogrammed or replaced but no experience in that area.

                                        For the coils that have no voltage, remove all power and check their resistance to ground. This will check for shorted caps.

                                        Post the details.

                                        Wait on other feedback.

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