Dell Alienware 17 R4 BAP10 LA-D751P, cpu b+ shorted?

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  • kalilinux25
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    • Mar 2018
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    #1

    Dell Alienware 17 R4 BAP10 LA-D751P, cpu b+ shorted?

    is it normal t have 1 ohms resistance to the CPU B+?

    MOD Edit ,link to schematic https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=74069

    BAP10 LA-D751P REV 1.0
    Last edited by SMDFlea; 10-02-2023, 02:03 AM. Reason: Added "Dell Alienware 17 R4 BAP10 LA-D751P" to thread title
  • mon2
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    • Dec 2019
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    #2
    Re: cpu b+ shorted?

    Yes, it is possible.

    See section 2.2 :

    https://www.logi.wiki/index.php/Begi...with_no_reason

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    • kalilinux25
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      #3
      Re: cpu b+ shorted?

      Originally posted by mon2
      Yes, it is possible.

      See section 2.2 :

      https://www.logi.wiki/index.php/Begi...with_no_reason
      thanks I though my cpu is dead

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      • kalilinux25
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        #4
        Re: cpu b+ shorted?

        why when I attached the PL500 a cpu b+ line I got shortedd at my PR702 a 19v line.. When I remove the PL500 shorted 19v line missing .?? those it mean my short comes from the cpu b+ line?

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        • ktmmotocross
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          • Feb 2014
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          #5
          Re: Dell Alienware 17 R4 BAP10 LA-D751P, cpu b+ shorted?

          why dont u inject? with 10A 1V u see hotspot on CPU if it is dead. or u find bad capacitor. but i have two of them with bad cpu

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          • piernov
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            • Jan 2016
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            #6
            Re: Dell Alienware 17 R4 BAP10 LA-D751P, cpu b+ shorted?

            No you don't inject voltage, you check for a shorted high-side MOSFET…
            OpenBoardView — https://github.com/OpenBoardView/OpenBoardView

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            • kalilinux25
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              Re: Dell Alienware 17 R4 BAP10 LA-D751P, cpu b+ shorted?

              Originally posted by piernov
              No you don't inject voltage, you check for a shorted high-side MOSFET…
              I'm trying to remove all the ic that related to the cpu b+ line but the problem even a 500c heat I cant remove the ic , what a amzing board

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              • kalilinux25
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                Re: Dell Alienware 17 R4 BAP10 LA-D751P, cpu b+ shorted?

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                • mcplslg123
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                  • Jun 2015
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                  #9
                  Re: Dell Alienware 17 R4 BAP10 LA-D751P, cpu b+ shorted?

                  Use a knife tip on your soldering iron and put some solder on all pins of mosfets first and then try removing it with a lot of good bga quality flux applied.

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                  • mon2
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                    • Dec 2019
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                    #10
                    Re: Dell Alienware 17 R4 BAP10 LA-D751P, cpu b+ shorted?

                    Multilayer pcbs like this one will have lots of heavy copper. This will make parts removal and soldering difficult. Do consider to buy an underside preheater to help. We recently bought the Hakko preheater unit but many on the market and clones on AliExpress.

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                    • dellxps15
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                      • Feb 2014
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                      #11
                      Re: Dell Alienware 17 R4 BAP10 LA-D751P, cpu b+ shorted?

                      Originally posted by kalilinux25
                      I'm trying to remove all the ic that related to the cpu b+ line but the problem even a 500c heat I cant remove the ic , what a amzing board
                      check all mosfet on cpu side by probing in diode mode drain-source and drain-gate and source-gate values. generally a shorted mosfet give low resistance on source-gate.

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                      • kalilinux25
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                        #12
                        Re: Dell Alienware 17 R4 BAP10 LA-D751P, cpu b+ shorted?

                        Originally posted by mcplslg123
                        Use a knife tip on your soldering iron and put some solder on all pins of mosfets first and then try removing it with a lot of good bga quality flux applied.
                        I tried my hotair staion is jsut a yihua 858d

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                        • kalilinux25
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                          #13
                          Re: Dell Alienware 17 R4 BAP10 LA-D751P, cpu b+ shorted?

                          Originally posted by mon2
                          Multilayer pcbs like this one will have lots of heavy copper. This will make parts removal and soldering difficult. Do consider to buy an underside preheater to help. We recently bought the Hakko preheater unit but many on the market and clones on AliExpress.
                          thanks for the good advice

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                          • gtech83
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                            • Dec 2010
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                            #14
                            Re: Dell Alienware 17 R4 BAP10 LA-D751P, cpu b+ shorted?

                            Anyone have info on PL500 Ferrite Bead Value Part info?

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                            • gtech83
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                              #15
                              Re: Dell Alienware 17 R4 BAP10 LA-D751P, cpu b+ shorted?

                              Found it
                              Attached Files

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                              • Drassh
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                                • Apr 2017
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by gtech83
                                Re: Dell Alienware 17 R4 BAP10 LA-D751P, cpu b+ shorted?

                                Found it
                                Thanks for sharing.

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