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  • Strolch
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Nov 2017
    • 237
    • Deutschland

    #1

    A1707 2017 LCD Dark after Liquid

    Hello,
    i have a MacBook Pro 15 "2017 820-00281 and everything works. But the display remains dark! I have corrosion on pin 43 and pin 1 of the LVDS connector and that's why I replaced the U9850 and the LVDS cable! But the display remains dark! I have the display tested on the other MacBook, the display is 100% intact. I also installed the OSX on the external monitor. I have just measured F8400. Fuse is ok!
    A help would be great ;-)
  • mon2
    Badcaps Legend
    • Dec 2019
    • 14085
    • Canada

    #2
    Re: A1707 2017 LCD Dark after Liquid

    Check the backlight voltage for the display.

    Voltage reading?

    Try pram reset as well.

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    • Strolch
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Nov 2017
      • 237
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      #3
      Re: A1707 2017 LCD Dark after Liquid

      Hi, how can i check it? Ore where?

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      • mon2
        Badcaps Legend
        • Dec 2019
        • 14085
        • Canada

        #4
        Re: A1707 2017 LCD Dark after Liquid

        See attached.

        Any yellow marked location = backlight voltage.

        Just be very careful with the meter probes.

        Meter in DC voltage setting (200 volts is good as the LCD backlight should be 25V or maybe higher if working correctly).

        Red meter to any of the yellow highlighted points - they are all connected together on the circuit board so any point will do.

        Black lead of the meter to any ground point = metal shield is ok.

        Also, when the laptop is on, shine a flashlight along the front face of the display - can you see any of the usual boot logo graphics / login screen, etc. ?
        Attached Files

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        • piernov
          Super Moderator
          • Jan 2016
          • 4435
          • France

          #5
          Re: A1707 2017 LCD Dark after Liquid

          As it has been said many times, no point in troubleshooting backlight if there is no image.
          Hard to see image on these LCD so at the very least LCD power rail should be measured to see if LCD is detected and powered.
          OpenBoardView — https://github.com/OpenBoardView/OpenBoardView

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          • Strolch
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Nov 2017
            • 237
            • Deutschland

            #6
            Re: A1707 2017 LCD Dark after Liquid

            @when the laptop is on, shine a flashlight along the front face of the display.
            Hi, at the front is nothing to see! Thats why i replaced the U9850.
            I just took measurements! I have 0 volts at the points! I have 11.7V on the fuse nearby.
            Last edited by Strolch; 10-18-2021, 12:34 PM.

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            • Strolch
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Nov 2017
              • 237
              • Deutschland

              #7
              Re: A1707 2017 LCD Dark after Liquid

              I Have 0 Volts at the C84.... +CC78 Points.

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              • mon2
                Badcaps Legend
                • Dec 2019
                • 14085
                • Canada

                #8
                Re: A1707 2017 LCD Dark after Liquid

                Can you check & post the cap location where you are measuring this voltage? Unable to locate C84.

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                • Strolch
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Nov 2017
                  • 237
                  • Deutschland

                  #9
                  Re: A1707 2017 LCD Dark after Liquid

                  i measured all the points you said Like on the picture. I have 0 volts D8410 also 0 volts
                  Attached Files
                  Last edited by Strolch; 10-19-2021, 10:11 AM.

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                  • mon2
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Dec 2019
                    • 14085
                    • Canada

                    #10
                    Re: A1707 2017 LCD Dark after Liquid

                    Check the PP5V_S0SW_LCD on J8500.

                    Post the voltages for 1, 2 and 3 of the attached.
                    Attached Files

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                    • Strolch
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • Nov 2017
                      • 237
                      • Deutschland

                      #11
                      Re: A1707 2017 LCD Dark after Liquid

                      Hi, i have at the U8500 Pin 1 and Pin 5 5Volts! And at R8515 3,7Volts!

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                      • mon2
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Dec 2019
                        • 14085
                        • Canada

                        #12
                        Re: A1707 2017 LCD Dark after Liquid

                        Confirm the same voltages and the other backlight voltage is reaching J8500.

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                        • mon2
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Dec 2019
                          • 14085
                          • Canada

                          #13
                          Re: A1707 2017 LCD Dark after Liquid

                          Measure & post the voltage on R9855. Need to confirm if the MUX (multiplexer) that shoots out the video over the eDP port onto J8500 is enabled or not.

                          See attached.

                          If the MUX is enabled with a logic '1' (HIGH) then there is a possibility that the MUX itself is defective and not passing through the signals onto the display panel.

                          This is assuming the display panel is a known good display and the relevant voltages are present. Then it is down the video signals that are sent over the eDP lines but this MUX is between the GPU and this LCD connector.

                          The MUX resides @ U9850 and appears that there is a low cost TI equivalent for this device.

                          P/N HD3SS212
                          * datasheet is attached
                          Attached Files

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                          • Strolch
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • Nov 2017
                            • 237
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                            #14
                            Re: A1707 2017 LCD Dark after Liquid

                            yes the Pin 45 has 5Volts

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                            • mon2
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                              • Dec 2019
                              • 14085
                              • Canada

                              #15
                              Re: A1707 2017 LCD Dark after Liquid

                              Also share the voltage reading for the backlight @ D8410.

                              Can you see any backlight on your display ?

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                              • Strolch
                                Badcaps Veteran
                                • Nov 2017
                                • 237
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                                #16
                                Re: A1707 2017 LCD Dark after Liquid

                                at R9855 i have 3,3Volts on the Pin1 and pin 2

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                                • Strolch
                                  Badcaps Veteran
                                  • Nov 2017
                                  • 237
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                                  #17
                                  Re: A1707 2017 LCD Dark after Liquid

                                  at the first post I write that I replace the U9850

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                                  • mon2
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Dec 2019
                                    • 14085
                                    • Canada

                                    #18
                                    Re: A1707 2017 LCD Dark after Liquid

                                    Very good on the U9850 replacement - we can rule this out. You are confident the replacement went well for the soldering ? 'Made it dance' with flux & hot air tool ?

                                    Perhaps reflow it if the ENABLE is logic '1' = means the MUX is enabled.

                                    Curious on the backlight voltage reading (PPVOUT_S0_LCDBKLT).

                                    If PPVOUT_S0_LCDBKLT is not 25+ volts then this rail is not working.

                                    Proceed to remove all power, meter in resistance mode (2k scale is ok).

                                    Check the resistance to ground of PPVOUT_S0_LCDBKLT (red meter probe) & black meter probe to ground. Checking for a low resistance which can cause this rail to be pulled down OR even shut off due to an excessive load (current draw).

                                    Post all readings.
                                    Last edited by mon2; 02-04-2022, 04:52 PM.

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                                    • Strolch
                                      Badcaps Veteran
                                      • Nov 2017
                                      • 237
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                                      #19
                                      Re: A1707 2017 LCD Dark after Liquid

                                      Yes he danced, Flux+hot air!. Where else should I measure the voltage?

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                                      • Strolch
                                        Badcaps Veteran
                                        • Nov 2017
                                        • 237
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                                        #20
                                        Re: A1707 2017 LCD Dark after Liquid

                                        i have no backlight on the display nothing

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