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  • kalilinux25
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    • Mar 2018
    • 2069
    • ZAMBOANGA SIBUGAY

    #1

    No Power output voltage 3v from VIN

    Hi good day to all, I have a problem with this unit DAZAAMB16E0 REV E from PQ22 pin 1 I only have 3v , im not good at board that doesnt have schematic and this problem is not common to me. Hope someone can help me .

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  • mielta
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    • Apr 2015
    • 368
    • Germany

    #2
    Re: No Power output voltage 3v from VIN

    Hi
    messure the resistance from pq22 pin1 to ground

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    • emestee
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      • Dec 2019
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      • Bulgaria

      #3
      Re: No Power output voltage 3v from VIN

      https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NsM...lNLY-gOgi/view

      Isn't this the board?

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      • kalilinux25
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        • Mar 2018
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        #4
        Re: No Power output voltage 3v from VIN

        Originally posted by emestee
        good sir thanks for shring the schematic

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        • emestee
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          • Dec 2019
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          #5
          Re: No Power output voltage 3v from VIN

          Originally posted by kalilinux25
          good sir thanks for shring the schematic
          Took me literally 15 seconds in google

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          • stingerchamp
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            • Sep 2020
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            • Pakistan

            #6
            Re: No Power output voltage 3v from VIN

            Pq22 is a deplition type mosfet ,n channel

            So it is always on until there is some short in line

            First we should have either 25 voltage in normal case at source and in case some issue it should go to full zero.
            Measure voltage on gate
            Verify voltage on all pins of charging ic and check pq22 for short

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            • piernov
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              • Jan 2016
              • 4435
              • France

              #7
              Re: No Power output voltage 3v from VIN

              I think it's an error in the symbol. It doesn't make sense to use depletion mode MOSFET here, and they are also never used in practice, it's always enhancement mode. It needs 25V on its gate to turn on.
              OpenBoardView — https://github.com/OpenBoardView/OpenBoardView

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              • kalilinux25
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                • Mar 2018
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                #8
                Re: No Power output voltage 3v from VIN

                I already change the pq 22 and the charger IC , I already burned 3x of ic and in the 4th it work bad soldering tehcnique , thanks to all and the scheamtic great help

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                • kalilinux25
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                  • Mar 2018
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                  #9
                  Re: No Power output voltage 3v from VIN

                  Update it wont power again

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                  • mcplslg123
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                    • Jun 2015
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                    • india

                    #10
                    Re: No Power output voltage 3v from VIN

                    measure Voltage on pin 1/2/3/4/5/6/24/28 of PU5. Replace PC136 with exact same value.

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                    • kalilinux25
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                      • Mar 2018
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                      #11
                      Re: No Power output voltage 3v from VIN

                      Originally posted by stingerchamp
                      pq22 is a deplition type mosfet ,n channel

                      so it is always on until there is some short in line

                      first we should have either 25 voltage in normal case at source and in case some issue it should go to full zero.
                      Measure voltage on gate
                      verify voltage on all pins of charging ic and check pq22 for short
                      pin1 acn- 0v
                      pin2 acp - 0v
                      pin3 cmsrc - 0v
                      pin4 acdrv -0v
                      pin 5 acok - 0v
                      pin 6 acdet -1v
                      pin7 iadp - 0v
                      pin 8 - 0v
                      pin9 - 0v
                      pin 10 -0v
                      pin 11-0v
                      pin12-0v
                      pin13-0v
                      pin14-0v
                      pin 15-27-0v
                      pin28- 19v

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                      • kalilinux25
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                        • Mar 2018
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                        #12
                        Re: No Power output voltage 3v from VIN

                        Originally posted by mcplslg123
                        measure Voltage on pin 1/2/3/4/5/6/24/28 of PU5. Replace PC136 with exact same value.
                        pin1 acn- 0v
                        pin2 acp - 0v
                        pin3 cmsrc - 0v
                        pin4 acdrv -0v
                        pin 5 acok - 0v
                        pin 6 acdet -1v
                        pin7 iadp - 0v
                        pin 8 - 0v
                        pin9 - 0v
                        pin 10 -0v
                        pin 11-0v
                        pin12-0v
                        pin13-0v
                        pin14-0v
                        pin 15-27-0v
                        pin28- 19v

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                        • mcplslg123
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                          • Jun 2015
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                          #13
                          Re: No Power output voltage 3v from VIN

                          Not very convinced with your readings. Seems IC pins are not soldered properly. Look under a microscope or atleast a magnifying glass.

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                          • kalilinux25
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                            • Mar 2018
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                            #14
                            Re: No Power output voltage 3v from VIN

                            Originally posted by mcplslg123
                            Not very convinced with your readings. Seems IC pins are not soldered properly. Look under a microscope or atleast a magnifying glass.
                            All pins is soldered properly sir

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                            • mcplslg123
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                              • Jun 2015
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                              #15
                              Re: No Power output voltage 3v from VIN

                              PR168(866K) & PR3(137K) forms the divider circuit for ACDET pin. As per voltage divider formula you shoud get 2.60V (19x137/866+137). You are measuring 1V at acdet pin, so either of these two resistors is likely bad. Measure both of them preferably out of circuit.

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                              • stingerchamp
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                                • Sep 2020
                                • 425
                                • Pakistan

                                #16
                                Re: No Power output voltage 3v from VIN

                                If you read functional diagram BQ24780SRUYR you will notice even at acdet greater than 0.6 voltage your REGN 6v should generate. Check pin 24 value again at charging ic.

                                What is voltage on pc122
                                Last edited by stingerchamp; 12-10-2020, 10:17 PM. Reason: Read data sheet requirements

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                                • kalilinux25
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                                  • Mar 2018
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                                  #17
                                  Re: No Power output voltage 3v from VIN

                                  Originally posted by stingerchamp
                                  If you read functional diagram BQ24780SRUYR you will notice even at acdet greater than 0.6 voltage your REGN 6v should generate. Check pin 24 value again at charging ic.

                                  What is voltage on pc122
                                  I dont have any voltages sir I dont know why

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