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  • jokophp
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    • Dec 2017
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    • indonesia

    #21
    Re: Lenovo ideapad 110 no power

    Mod EDIT: bad advice
    Last edited by piernov; 11-01-2019, 03:56 PM.

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    • KvnTM
      Badcaps Veteran
      • May 2018
      • 434
      • Germany

      #22
      Re: Lenovo ideapad 110 no power

      Originally posted by jokophp
      try to reball chipset..
      Not the problem here. His problem is on the 5v rail which has nothing to do with the chipset and this laptop doesn't even have one.
      The chipset (PCH) is integrated into the CPU package.

      EDIT: thanks piernov for marking jokophp's response as bad advice.
      Last edited by KvnTM; 11-01-2019, 04:05 PM.

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      • asem18
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2016
        • 112
        • my workshop

        #23
        Re: Lenovo ideapad 110 no power

        Sorry to be late...thank you for all your help...PU401 (3VALW) is ok. My issue is on PU402 ( 5VALW ).

        PU 402 :
        Pin 2 to 5 = 20V is present
        Pin 12 = 3.3v +5VALW_EN is present
        Pin 15 = LDO +5VLP is not presnet ...only 0,635V
        Pin 20 = +5VALW is not present ...only 0,635V.

        I open PJ406 with the inductor soldered to the board and no too = same voltage.

        I desolder and re-solder PU402 = same measure ...no change

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        • mcplslg123
          Badcaps Legend
          • Jun 2015
          • 7262
          • india

          #24
          Re: Lenovo ideapad 110 no power

          What about pin9 & pin 17of PU402??

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          • asem18
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2016
            • 112
            • my workshop

            #25
            Re: Lenovo ideapad 110 no power

            Pin9/17 = 0V

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            • asem18
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2016
              • 112
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              #26
              Re: Lenovo ideapad 110 no power

              PU401 :
              Pin 9 = +3V_PWRGD = 0V
              Pin 13 = 0,653v....PC411 = 0.653 ( from the side of pin13 ) , and 3.3V from the other side

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              • KvnTM
                Badcaps Veteran
                • May 2018
                • 434
                • Germany

                #27
                Re: Lenovo ideapad 110 no power

                PU401:
                Pin 9 should be 3.3v if it's not active low.
                Pin 13 is fine. It is the feedback signal which is ac coupled. Thats why you get 3.3v on one side and 0.653v on the other side of PC411.

                PU402:
                Replace the chip. I highly suspect that it is dead.
                VCC pin (17) is odd. It is marked VCC and goes to gnd via a cap. Not quite sure what's the deal there. It is marked +5V_VCC but that rail exists nowhere in the schematic.
                Can you take a closeup picture of PU402?


                Sadly there are no datasheets available for both PU401 and PU402.

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                • asem18
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                  • Oct 2016
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                  #28
                  Re: Lenovo ideapad 110 no power

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                  • KvnTM
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                    • May 2018
                    • 434
                    • Germany

                    #29
                    Re: Lenovo ideapad 110 no power



                    Those two components look kinda burned.
                    Also have you tried resoldering PU402 & PU401? The soldering doesn't look very trustworthy in my opinion.

                    Reflow them with a lot of flux. If this doesn't work I'd resolder them with lead free solder.

                    Everything seems to be fine. Either the soldering is bad or both chips died.

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                    • SMDFlea
                      Super Moderator
                      • Jan 2018
                      • 20971
                      • UK

                      #30
                      Re: Lenovo ideapad 110 no power

                      PL402 should be 3.3µH according to the schematic .
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                      • KvnTM
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • May 2018
                        • 434
                        • Germany

                        #31
                        Re: Lenovo ideapad 110 no power

                        Originally posted by SMDFlea
                        PL402 should be 3.3µH according to the schematic .
                        He didn't mention that he replaced that inductor. I didn't even pay attention to it but that could be an issue. 1.5uh is definitely too low if he replaced it.

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                        • SMDFlea
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                          • Jan 2018
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                          #32
                          Re: Lenovo ideapad 110 no power

                          It is to low,so feedback won`t work as it should.I agree with KvnTM about the soldering, need more flux.

                          EDIT: feedback should be ok,my mistake. 1.5uh (according to LA-C341P schematic) is rated at 6A whereas the 3.3uh is rated at 6.5A .
                          Last edited by SMDFlea; 11-05-2019, 01:14 PM.
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                          • asem18
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                            • Oct 2016
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                            #33
                            Re: Lenovo ideapad 110 no power

                            KvnTM and SMDFlea..a big thank for your help....no i didn't change inductor,as i told U before this mobo is coming from another reapir shop..ok i m gonna reflow both of them with a lot of flux...ok i will change the inductor with one 3.3µH

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                            • KvnTM
                              Badcaps Veteran
                              • May 2018
                              • 434
                              • Germany

                              #34
                              Re: Lenovo ideapad 110 no power

                              Originally posted by asem18
                              KvnTM and SMDFlea..a big thank for your help....no i didn't change inductor,as i told U before this mobo is coming from another reapir shop..ok i m gonna reflow both of them with a lot of flux...ok i will change the inductor with one 3.3µH
                              Yes.. I remember you said that it came from another shop.. I forgot.
                              They probably screwed that area up. Resolder both chips and replace the inductor.
                              I can remember that pu402 was getting really hot? This may be due to the wrong inductor.

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                              • asem18
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2016
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                                #35
                                Re: Lenovo ideapad 110 no power

                                Hello , i resolder PU402 & PU401 , i replace inductor with another one...same issue no 5Valw...and for Pu 401 3Valw is present but no +3V_PWRGD on pin 9.
                                maybe Pu402 is bad !
                                i will change it ..thank you for all your help

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                                • KvnTM
                                  Badcaps Veteran
                                  • May 2018
                                  • 434
                                  • Germany

                                  #36
                                  Re: Lenovo ideapad 110 no power

                                  Just replace both chips if you already have to order one. The 3.3v chip is also not working correctly... PGOOD is missing from it.

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