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  • rookieme
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Oct 2014
    • 396
    • Greece

    #1

    LA-A091P power issue

    Hi team,
    at this board I'm having no power issue.
    I have 19V at the output of PQ301 but 0V at output of PQ302.
    I'm not sure what to check.
    Both of them share the same gate (19V) and are in working condition.
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  • angel-boy
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Jan 2013
    • 550
    • Romania

    #2
    Re: LA-A091P power issue

    check pq304 and 303, you dont receive the gate for pq301 and 302 ( 4pin)

    Is posible to have a short after 301, and that`s why power missing.

    You chan short pq301, and measure pq302 out , if is 0v, short before pq301 and after pq302

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    • rookieme
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Oct 2014
      • 396
      • Greece

      #3
      Re: LA-A091P power issue

      I have already checked pq303 & pq304 and they have no short.
      In fact I have removed pq304 and had the same result.
      I see no short, current flows from pq301 but not from pq302.
      What voltage should pq302 have at the gate in order to let the current flow?

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      • meritosari
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2010
        • 774
        • Indonesia

        #4
        Re: LA-A091P power issue

        Originally posted by rookieme
        What voltage should pq302 have at the gate in order to let the current flow?
        + 7-9v

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        • rookieme
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Oct 2014
          • 396
          • Greece

          #5
          Re: LA-A091P power issue

          I get 19V there...

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          • meritosari
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2010
            • 774
            • Indonesia

            #6
            Re: LA-A091P power issue

            -voltage acdet and acok?
            -voltage PQ303 PQ304 PQ307?

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            • samanthban
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Feb 2014
              • 253
              • Sri lanka

              #7
              Re: LA-A091P power issue

              you need negative voltage to open the fet check pq 307 pin 5
              sigpic

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              • rookieme
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Oct 2014
                • 396
                • Greece

                #8
                Re: LA-A091P power issue

                ACOK 4,3V
                ACDET 3,2V
                PQ307 pin6 13,1 V pin2 ~0V
                PQ303 pin2 13,1 V pin1 17,5V
                PQ304 pin2 17,5 V pin1 19,7 V pin3 19,7V

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                • rookieme
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 396
                  • Greece

                  #9
                  Re: LA-A091P power issue

                  Originally posted by samanthban
                  you need negative voltage to open the fet check pq 307 pin 5
                  PQ307 pin5 ~0V, pin3 16V

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                  • samanthban
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Feb 2014
                    • 253
                    • Sri lanka

                    #10
                    Re: LA-A091P power issue

                    Originally posted by rookieme
                    PQ307 pin5 ~0V, pin3 16V
                    Ok.. check pq 308 voltage
                    sigpic

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                    • rookieme
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 396
                      • Greece

                      #11
                      Re: LA-A091P power issue

                      PQ308 pin2 4,2 V pin1 ~0V

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                      • samanthban
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • Feb 2014
                        • 253
                        • Sri lanka

                        #12
                        Re: LA-A091P power issue

                        Originally posted by rookieme
                        PQ308 pin2 4,2 V pin1 ~0V
                        I think this is the culprit check this transistor.
                        sigpic

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                        • fddizon
                          Badcaps Veteran
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 555
                          • Philippines

                          #13
                          Re: LA-A091P power issue

                          check PQ302 pin 5678 against ground

                          (this will Bypass protection circuit)
                          if there is no short, lift pin 4 of FET PQ302. signal will pass.
                          if DC bench is available use it as the source

                          if no dc bench
                          Note: make a quick insert of the adapter and check parts that will heat up. quickly remove if smoke will come up
                          with this method, you will quickly find the shorted component.


                          Last edited by fddizon; 10-21-2015, 02:49 AM.

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                          • rookieme
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 396
                            • Greece

                            #14
                            Re: LA-A091P power issue

                            Originally posted by fddizon
                            check PQ302 pin 5678 against ground

                            (this will Bypass protection circuit)
                            if there is no short, lift pin 4 of FET PQ302. signal will pass.
                            if DC bench is available use it as the source

                            if no dc bench
                            Note: make a quick insert of the adapter and check parts that will heat up. quickly remove if smoke will come up
                            with this method, you will quickly find the shorted component.


                            That is correct, I have a short after the PQ302.
                            Previously I have done a reballing at GPU and I think that a component didn't survive the heat, it's not the GPU [I removed it again].
                            I'll make some measures before connecting power.

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                            • rookieme
                              Badcaps Veteran
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 396
                              • Greece

                              #15
                              Re: LA-A091P power issue

                              Finaly it was a bad cap, I used a AA power cell 1,5V that managed to make the cap boiling hot.
                              Thank you all for your time.

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                              • angel-boy
                                Badcaps Veteran
                                • Jan 2013
                                • 550
                                • Romania

                                #16
                                Re: LA-A091P power issue

                                i told you this from begining ))


                                i did not tell you to check for short, i told you to make a short ( create ) you must unit the pq301 ( 8.7.6.5 pins ) with ( pq302 8.7.6.5 pins )

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                                • rookieme
                                  Badcaps Veteran
                                  • Oct 2014
                                  • 396
                                  • Greece

                                  #17
                                  Re: LA-A091P power issue

                                  Sometimes I'm a bit rookie
                                  Last edited by rookieme; 10-21-2015, 02:06 PM.

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                                  • angel-boy
                                    Badcaps Veteran
                                    • Jan 2013
                                    • 550
                                    • Romania

                                    #18
                                    Re: LA-A091P power issue

                                    is important that mainboard work now.

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                                    • samanthban
                                      Badcaps Veteran
                                      • Feb 2014
                                      • 253
                                      • Sri lanka

                                      #19
                                      Re: LA-A091P power issue

                                      Originally posted by fddizon
                                      check PQ302 pin 5678 against ground

                                      (this will Bypass protection circuit)
                                      if there is no short, lift pin 4 of FET PQ302. signal will pass.
                                      if DC bench is available use it as the source

                                      if no dc bench
                                      Note: make a quick insert of the adapter and check parts that will heat up. quickly remove if smoke will come up
                                      with this method, you will quickly find the shorted component.


                                      very nice thanks for sharing
                                      sigpic

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                                      • abbas_govani
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Jul 2013
                                        • 89
                                        • India

                                        #20
                                        Re: LA-A091P power issue

                                        Hi guys,
                                        i have a problem with this board,
                                        pu401 is getting heated. i checked there is 8 ohms on pc414 witch is +3vlp.
                                        i removed thi ic and capacitor too but the resistance is same. can any one have any idea to rectify this problem.

                                        thanks in advance.

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