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  • ahmetozay
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    • Jul 2013
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    #1

    Acer Aspire 5750 no B+ voltage

    Hi, i have 19v on pq7 but only 1v output thus no 3.3v nor 5.0 v always voltages and the system is dead at the moment. in the attachment i measured the voltages at start of the B+ rail. Any advices welcome

    Motherboard model is P5WE0 LA-6901P REV 2.0
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    Last edited by ahmetozay; 09-10-2014, 08:03 AM.
  • multiplexer
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    • Dec 2012
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    • italy

    #2
    Re: Acer Aspire 5750 no B+ voltage

    Measure the voltages on pins 1, 2, 8, 23, 24 of PU1
    Measure the voltages on all the pins of PQ14

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    • ahmetozay
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      • Jul 2013
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      #3
      Re: Acer Aspire 5750 no B+ voltage

      Originally posted by multiplexer
      Measure the voltages on pins 1, 2, 8, 23, 24 of PU1
      Measure the voltages on all the pins of PQ14
      Thanks for the reply

      pu1
      1=5.1v
      2=1.35v
      8=0v
      23=0
      24=18.5v

      PQ14
      1=0v
      2=0v
      3=0v
      4=0v
      5=0v
      6=6.1v
      Last edited by ahmetozay; 09-10-2014, 08:46 AM.

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      • ktmmotocross
        Boardkiller
        • Feb 2014
        • 3553
        • slovakia

        #4
        Re: Acer Aspire 5750 no B+ voltage

        u must have short to ground on B+ rail

        remove all PJP and check which powerrail is shorted
        Last edited by ktmmotocross; 09-10-2014, 08:58 AM.

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        • ahmetozay
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          • Jul 2013
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          #5
          Re: Acer Aspire 5750 no B+ voltage

          Originally posted by ktmmotocross
          u must have short to ground on B+ rail
          Thanks for the reply

          i thought of that and shorted the pin 1 and 8 of PQ7 but there was no short. But after your message i tried to short 1 and 8 pin of pq7 but this time with 19v and the motherboard worked ok. Thus i changed the pq7 with the new one but still output is 1v, very strange

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          • multiplexer
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            • Dec 2012
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            #6
            Re: Acer Aspire 5750 no B+ voltage

            Measure the voltages on all the pins of PQ19

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            • ktmmotocross
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              • Feb 2014
              • 3553
              • slovakia

              #7
              Re: Acer Aspire 5750 no B+ voltage

              check resistance to ground on pin 5-8 on pq7

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              • ahmetozay
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                • Jul 2013
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                #8
                Re: Acer Aspire 5750 no B+ voltage

                Originally posted by multiplexer
                Measure the voltages on all the pins of PQ19
                PQ19
                1=2.6v
                2=0v
                3=ground

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                • ahmetozay
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                  • Jul 2013
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                  #9
                  Re: Acer Aspire 5750 no B+ voltage

                  Originally posted by ktmmotocross
                  check resistance to ground on pin 5-8 on pq7
                  Resistance is reading in mega ohms so definetely no short

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                  • ktmmotocross
                    Boardkiller
                    • Feb 2014
                    • 3553
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                    #10
                    Re: Acer Aspire 5750 no B+ voltage

                    did u use exactly the 4407?

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                    • ahmetozay
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                      • Jul 2013
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                      #11
                      Re: Acer Aspire 5750 no B+ voltage

                      Originally posted by ktmmotocross
                      did u use exactly the 4407?
                      it was 4459 and i used 4435 instead

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                      • ktmmotocross
                        Boardkiller
                        • Feb 2014
                        • 3553
                        • slovakia

                        #12
                        Re: Acer Aspire 5750 no B+ voltage

                        on your picture it is 4407

                        but 4459 can handle TRIPLE current than 4435 so u probably burn that 4435

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                        • ahmetozay
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                          • Jul 2013
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                          #13
                          Re: Acer Aspire 5750 no B+ voltage

                          Originally posted by ahmetozay
                          it was 4459 and i used 4435 instead
                          this board is rev 2.0 4407 is in the rev 0.1

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                          • ahmetozay
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                            • Jul 2013
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                            #14
                            Re: Acer Aspire 5750 no B+ voltage

                            Originally posted by ktmmotocross
                            on your picture it is 4407

                            but 4459 can handle TRIPLE current than 4435 so u probably burn that 4435
                            no its not burnt still output is 1v

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                            • atsio
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                              • Oct 2013
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                              #15
                              Re: Acer Aspire 5750 no B+ voltage

                              Originally posted by ahmetozay
                              Thanks for the reply

                              pu1
                              1=5.1v
                              2=1.35v
                              8=0v
                              23=0
                              24=18.5v

                              PQ14
                              1=0v
                              2=0v
                              3=0v
                              4=0v
                              5=0v
                              6=6.1v
                              You have 19v and acset voltage to the charger but not acprn signal. Replace charger ic. I always replace and the fets, so I suggest replace and pq15 and pq16

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                              • ahmetozay
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                                • Jul 2013
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                                #16
                                Re: Acer Aspire 5750 no B+ voltage

                                Originally posted by atsio
                                You have 19v and acset voltage to the charger but not acprn signal. Replace charger ic. I always replace and the fets, so I suggest replace and pq15 and pq16
                                Thanks for the reply

                                changed charger ic but there was no difference. so charging i is ok. any other advice?
                                Last edited by ahmetozay; 09-11-2014, 02:40 AM.

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                                • multiplexer
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                                  #17
                                  Re: Acer Aspire 5750 no B+ voltage

                                  Measures PQ19 taken according to this numbering?
                                  See Annex
                                  Voltages do not add up
                                  Considering the numbering as an attachment
                                  PQ19 pin 1 connected to pin 23 of PU1 (0V correctly stated)
                                  pin3 PQ19 (must essera to about 3V) connected to pins 2, 5 PQ14 (0V incorrectly stated)
                                  Pin 2 to ground PQ19
                                  Check that the pin 2 of 3 PQ19 are not short.
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                                  Last edited by multiplexer; 09-11-2014, 03:14 AM.

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                                  • atsio
                                    Badcaps Veteran
                                    • Oct 2013
                                    • 819
                                    • Greece

                                    #18
                                    Re: Acer Aspire 5750 no B+ voltage

                                    I posted without reading ISL's datasheet. ACPRN should be low.
                                    What is the voltage on pin 4 of PQ6 and PQ7? What is the voltage on pins of PQ14?

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                                    • multiplexer
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                                      #19
                                      Re: Acer Aspire 5750 no B+ voltage

                                      Originally posted by atsio
                                      I posted without reading ISL's datasheet. ACPRN should be low.
                                      What is the voltage on pin 4 of PQ6 and PQ7? What is the voltage on pins of PQ14?
                                      Originally posted by ahmetozay
                                      Hi, i have 19v on pq7 but only 1v output thus no 3.3v nor 5.0 v always voltages and the system is dead at the moment. in the attachment i measured the voltages at start of the B+ rail. Any advices welcome

                                      Motherboard model is P5WE0 LA-6901P REV 2.0
                                      See attached first post

                                      Originally posted by ahmetozay
                                      Thanks for the reply

                                      pu1
                                      1=5.1v
                                      2=1.35v
                                      8=0v
                                      23=0
                                      24=18.5v

                                      PQ14
                                      1=0v
                                      2=0v
                                      3=0v
                                      4=0v
                                      5=0v
                                      6=6.1v
                                      Here are the steps required
                                      Last edited by multiplexer; 09-11-2014, 05:11 AM.

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                                      • ahmetozay
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Jul 2013
                                        • 73
                                        • turkey

                                        #20
                                        Re: Acer Aspire 5750 no B+ voltage

                                        Originally posted by multiplexer
                                        Measures PQ19 taken according to this numbering?
                                        See Annex
                                        Voltages do not add up
                                        Considering the numbering as an attachment
                                        PQ19 pin 1 connected to pin 23 of PU1 (0V correctly stated)
                                        pin3 PQ19 (must essera to about 3V) connected to pins 2, 5 PQ14 (0V incorrectly stated)
                                        Pin 2 to ground PQ19
                                        Check that the pin 2 of 3 PQ19 are not short.
                                        i've checked PQ19 but only 1 pin is shorted to groun other pins are not shorted

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