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  • mon2
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    • Dec 2019
    • 13832
    • Canada

    #21
    Meter in resistance mode. Measure the resistance from pin #4 (gate) of each of these mosfets to pin #32 of the charger ic. We are trying to locate which one of these mosfets is being driven by the charger ic (BGATE).

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    • Darren Hibbert
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2024
      • 102
      • UK

      #22
      Ok so Pin 32 to Gate of the 21321 MOSFET is 0.3 ohms

      Looking at that other MOSFET I sent a picture of, I just noticed it has 2 gates so maybe I never measured that one properly. Hopefully the 21321 MOSFET is the one we are looking for.

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      • mon2
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        • Dec 2019
        • 13832
        • Canada

        #23
        Yes, 21321 is the battery mosfet and the resistance check looks to be ok.

        Here is the datasheet for this P-channel mosfet:

        AONR21321 Datasheet | DigiKey

        Locate the high side mosfet driven by the same charger IC. We are hunting for a mosfet that is possibly leaking. The other mosfet found in the earlier post looks to be low in resistance and is a suspect. Review where the pin # 4 of that mosfet travels to the charger IC. It is possible that there will be a current limit resistor between the charger IC pin and the mosfet's gate pin.

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        • Darren Hibbert
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          • Feb 2024
          • 102
          • UK

          #24
          Ok pin 4 of the top (there are two) QA3112 goes to pin 7 (LGATE2) of the charger IC.

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          • Darren Hibbert
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2024
            • 102
            • UK

            #25
            Pin 4 of the bottom MOSFET goes to pin 9 (LGATE1)

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            • Darren Hibbert
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              • Feb 2024
              • 102
              • UK

              #26
              I'm really appreciating your help by the way 🙏🤩

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              • mon2
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                • Dec 2019
                • 13832
                • Canada

                #27
                Continue to hunt for the mosfet mated with the UGATE2 pin on the charger IC using the same method. One meter probe on UGATE2 pin on the charger IC; other meter pin on pin # 4 of the mosfet.

                Once that mosfet is located, proceed to test that mosfet using resistance mode (if manual mode meter, use a higher resistance scale). If you read 'OL' = over limit, switch to a higher resistance scale on the meter.

                Measure the mosfet as follows:

                source (1-2-3) & drain (5-6-7-8)
                source (1-2-3) & gate (4)
                gate (4) & drain (5-6-7-8)


                Post each measurement.

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                • Darren Hibbert
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                  • Feb 2024
                  • 102
                  • UK

                  #28
                  Ok so UGATE2 of the charger IC goes to the MOSFET in the picture. I'm a little confused by it as it does not have a 1234 drain. Hopefully I've measured right but I'm unsure of the different layout of pins on this chip compared to your traditional MOSFET.

                  Here is what I got with my effort -

                  Source to drain - 0.9 M ohms
                  Source to gate - 3.6 M ohms
                  Gate to drain - 500 K ohms.




                  Attached Files

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                  • mon2
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                    • Dec 2019
                    • 13832
                    • Canada

                    #29
                    Good point and bad assumption on my part. Consult the datasheet and measure again to hunt down the respective gate / drain / source pins for this dual mosfet.

                    PS: Need to make a quick trip to Detroit - BBL.

                    Attached Files

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                    • Darren Hibbert
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2024
                      • 102
                      • UK

                      #30
                      Ok safe trip.

                      I checked the 3 pins on one side of the mosfet and they all go to Ground 🤷 (see pic)

                      The 3 on the other side obviously don't. The datasheet shows 3 Source pins and 3 Drain pins. 3 of these pins are grounded so I assume that MOSFET is shorted to ground?

                      I have a thermal cam so will try it while your on your trip and let you know the results.
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                      • Darren Hibbert
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                        • Feb 2024
                        • 102
                        • UK

                        #31
                        Thermal cam showed nothing.

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                        • Darren Hibbert
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                          • Feb 2024
                          • 102
                          • UK

                          #32
                          I did notice when I turned the laptop on, that the chipset was starting to heat up for the 3 seconds before it starts looping on and off, I assume this is normal?

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                          • mon2
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                            • Dec 2019
                            • 13832
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                            #33
                            Which chipset?

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                            • mcplslg123
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                              • Jun 2015
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                              #34
                              I simply dont understand why we're after charging circuit when the system is charging battery?

                              The resistance to GND for cpu coils is perfectly fine-so SOC is not shorted.

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                              • Darren Hibbert
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2024
                                • 102
                                • UK

                                #35
                                Originally posted by mon2
                                Which chipset?
                                Next to the CPU

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                                • Darren Hibbert
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                                  • Feb 2024
                                  • 102
                                  • UK

                                  #36
                                  Is it at all possible that the laptop is switching on and off because of a corrupt BIOS?



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                                  • mon2
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                                    • Dec 2019
                                    • 13832
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                                    #37
                                    Backup the original bios and test with a known good bios. If necessary, post your request for a fresh bios inside the bios forum.

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                                    • Darren Hibbert
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Feb 2024
                                      • 102
                                      • UK

                                      #38
                                      Hi.

                                      Tried a new BIOS but the laptop is doing the same on and off every 3 seconds with no picture. Time to move on to the next step I think. 🤔

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                                      • Darren Hibbert
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Feb 2024
                                        • 102
                                        • UK

                                        #39
                                        On the CPU inductors, I'm getting 35 ohms. I might be wrong but that sounds high to me?

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                                        • mon2
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                                          • Dec 2019
                                          • 13832
                                          • Canada

                                          #40
                                          Can you measure the 2nd mosfet again from post # 20 and post your measurements. The first measurement looks very low for a good mosfet.

                                          On the CPU resistance, it is not shorted with such a value.
                                          Last edited by mon2; 07-06-2024, 02:49 PM.

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