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  • kev4eva
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    • Mar 2012
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    • jamaica

    #1

    Dell XPS M1530-Shorting out Adapter

    Got a dell xps m1330,

    Seem to be a power protection problem, cant find the source of the short.
    The board is shorting out ac adapter when i try to plug in.

    Tested U41 and U42 mosfets, they seem ok, C10 capacitor ok too.

    Stuck on pg 38 of schematic....any help please??


    See link....Will try get some pics


    Dell Xps M1330 Intel Motherboard Schematics
    Last edited by kev4eva; 11-21-2013, 03:51 PM.
  • whaldsz
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Apr 2013
    • 395
    • Philippines

    #2
    Re: Dell XPS M1530-Shorting out Adapter

    Resistance to ground of test point +DC_IN?

    Voltage of U40. At pin 1, 4 and 8?

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    • Sparks88
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2011
      • 110

      #3
      Re: Dell XPS M1530-Shorting out Adapter

      try the decoupling ceramics on the video board, there are several in a line along one edge of the board and one of these will be short circuit

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      • kev4eva
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        • Mar 2012
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        #4
        Re: Dell XPS M1530-Shorting out Adapter

        Originally posted by whaldsz
        Resistance to ground of test point +DC_IN?

        Voltage of U40. At pin 1, 4 and 8?
        u42 pins 1,2,3 short to ground.............cant test voltage as adapter keep shorting out and i dont have dc power supply

        what you think, u42 short or its a cap nearly, from the schematic arent those pins positive???

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        • robrock1
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          • Jul 2013
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          #5
          Re: Dell XPS M1530-Shorting out Adapter

          if you don't want to mess up your board use the multimeter and a dc power supply to test, i am sure just one of the small orange capacitors has been shorted so its easy to fix but if you try something you will end up damaging the board completely

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          • kev4eva
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            • Mar 2012
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            #6
            Re: Dell XPS M1530-Shorting out Adapter

            Originally posted by robrock1
            if you don't want to mess up your board use the multimeter and a dc power supply to test, i am sure just one of the small orange capacitors has been shorted so its easy to fix but if you try something you will end up damaging the board completely
            try to source a dc power supply dont have one, jus a meter and a smd capacitor an resistor test but had to test these caps in the board

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            • robrock1
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              • Jul 2013
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              #7
              Re: Dell XPS M1530-Shorting out Adapter

              if you see some coil or mosfet is shorted, remove and check from which side the short is coming from then you trace it.

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              • kev4eva
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                • Mar 2012
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                #8
                Re: Dell XPS M1530-Shorting out Adapter

                Originally posted by robrock1
                if you see some coil or mosfet is shorted, remove and check from which side the short is coming from then you trace it.
                i removed u42 then i see no short on adapter, i didnt turn on cause did want to damage anything.....waiting on your feedback

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                • robrock1
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                  • Jul 2013
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                  #9
                  Re: Dell XPS M1530-Shorting out Adapter

                  you have to see on which side of u42 is the short (on the motherboard then you search from there), or if u42 is shorted (use meter to test) try and find replacement for it or the laptop will not work

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                  • dj_ricoh
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                    • Jan 2013
                    • 2073
                    • uk

                    #10
                    Re: Dell XPS M1530-Shorting out Adapter

                    resolder back u42 and desolder q6 and check again
                    Just cook it! It's already broken.

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                    • kev4eva
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                      • Mar 2012
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                      #11
                      Re: Dell XPS M1530-Shorting out Adapter

                      Originally posted by robrock1
                      you have to see on which side of u42 is the short (on the motherboard then you search from there), or if u42 is shorted (use meter to test) try and find replacement for it or the laptop will not work
                      ok thanks guys...u42 reads ok out of the board, trying to find out more as you said

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                      • kev4eva
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                        • Mar 2012
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                        #12
                        Re: Dell XPS M1530-Shorting out Adapter

                        Originally posted by dj_ricoh
                        resolder back u42 and desolder q6 and check again
                        here are my results:

                        i resodlered back u42 & desolder q6= adapter still shorts out.

                        still trying to find out whats causing diode u42 to short

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                        • whaldsz
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                          • Apr 2013
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                          #13
                          Re: Dell XPS M1530-Shorting out Adapter

                          try to remove R340 and check pin 1,2,3 of U42). If it is still short, then check CH1. If U32 is no longer shorted, trace +PWR_SRC rails for shorted capacitor. You need bench PS to easily pinpoint it.

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                          • Francisco.s
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                            • Jan 2013
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                            #14
                            Re: Dell XPS M1530-Shorting out Adapter

                            still trying to find out whats causing diode u42 to short
                            If u42 reads ok out of the board, it isn't in short-circuit, there must be mosfet, or a short-circuited capacitor.

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                            • dj_ricoh
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                              • Jan 2013
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                              #15
                              Re: Dell XPS M1530-Shorting out Adapter

                              I got a xps like this so I will subscribe :-)
                              Just cook it! It's already broken.

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                              • Turbolego
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                                • Aug 2014
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                                #16
                                Re: Dell XPS M1530-Shorting out Adapter

                                Hello.

                                Sorry for necroposting this thread back to life, but i have the same problem with a M1330 (model PP25L)

                                Same symptoms, the indicator light on the power-brick shuts off if i plug it into the board.
                                I have tested the power brick with another computer (it works).

                                The machine has been taken apart, and the board is currently only connected to the CPU and power button board.

                                Anyways, i guess i need to get myself a multimeter to check for the bad caps, but what else should i get in order to do a proper repair?

                                Thanks in advance.

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                                • hansie55
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                                  • Dec 2013
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                                  #17
                                  Re: Dell XPS M1530-Shorting out Adapter

                                  Hey,
                                  What I mostly do: use a heavy adapter, 120-140W that keeps supplying with the shortcut and feel for hot components. In this case it is mostly a C or mosfet around C520 till C525
                                  or at the four mosfets at U66.
                                  This is realy the fastest way

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                                  • Turbolego
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                                    • Aug 2014
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                                    #18
                                    Re: Dell XPS M1530-Shorting out Adapter

                                    Originally posted by hansie55
                                    Hey,
                                    What I mostly do: use a heavy adapter, 120-140W that keeps supplying with the shortcut and feel for hot components. In this case it is mostly a C or mosfet around C520 till C525
                                    or at the four mosfets at U66.
                                    This is realy the fastest way
                                    Alright, so i need a new power adapter that doesn't shut itself off?

                                    Hm... perhaps it will be cheaper to just get a new motherboard, i've seen a couple on ebay for $50.

                                    I've also seen a lot of bad motherboards on ebay for $35 and up, lol

                                    Might be the easiest way out, get a new board and sell the bad one for $10 and let someone else who has the proper equipment fix it.

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                                    • hansie55
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                                      • Dec 2013
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                                      #19
                                      Re: Dell XPS M1530-Shorting out Adapter

                                      Your choice.
                                      I bought a universal adapter 140W for € 19,95

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                                      • rldator
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                                        • May 2015
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                                        • philippines

                                        #20
                                        Re: Dell XPS M1530-Shorting out Adapter

                                        We had the same model laptop but U40 mosfet burn-out. I replaced the mosfet 3 times and when I plug the adapter it burn again. What is the causes of this problem?

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