Help wit Acer 5740 Board [All pins on AC Socket shorting]

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  • DJ_MIX
    Senior Member
    • May 2005
    • 118

    #1

    Help wit Acer 5740 Board [All pins on AC Socket shorting]

    Need help with a Acer 5740 board I picked up:
    Symptoms when received:
    - 1 Would not power on with AC only (Ac Adapter (PS) light flickers NOT STEADY)
    -2 Powers and posts on with battery only
    3- Worked with AC and Battery pluged in but no charge light

    I was thinking AC Plug so I removed it but I see not shorts in plug

    Then I go ahead and do a Continuity test on pins on ac Adapter on board and
    have weird results:

    All pins ground / mounting holes and POsitive pin all show they all connected to each other. I believe Positive should not show up as connected to ground pins correct?

    How do I go about fixing this and hat is the cause? is it damage to traces on board at ac adapter connector or other componets.
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  • spidey
    climbs
    • Dec 2012
    • 644
    • Cyprus

    #2
    Re: Help wit Acer 5740 Board [All pins on AC Socket shorting]

    i think the problem is protection circuit. check schematic, in charging circuit there are 2 mosfets connected together, where B+ comes. one of them is short.

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    • DJ_MIX
      Senior Member
      • May 2005
      • 118

      #3
      Re: Help wit Acer 5740 Board [All pins on AC Socket shorting]

      Originally posted by spidey
      i think the problem is protection circuit. check schematic, in charging circuit there are 2 mosfets connected together, where B+ comes. one of them is short.
      I'm new to this:
      I found the schematic attached:
      Should I be looking at U29 & U38 or

      is it these two U35 & u32

      Also how do I test these fets do I need to remove them and then test what.

      Thanks
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      • DJ_MIX
        Senior Member
        • May 2005
        • 118

        #4
        Re: Help wit Acer 5740 Board [All pins on AC Socket shorting]

        I think I found the problem, maybe someone can confirm

        While checking U32 & U35 (FDS8884-GP IC)
        U32 Pins 1 & 4 give me a 5.2 reading when set to Ohms (20K)
        U35 Pins 1 & 4 give me 1 (no reading) which is correct should be no flow from source to gate

        Can anyone tell me how to test mosfets for shorts Links?? must removed or can be tested on boad with no power source?

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        • fddizon
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Sep 2011
          • 555
          • Philippines

          #5
          Re: Help wit Acer 5740 Board [All pins on AC Socket shorting]

          test pin 1 to pin 8..

          reading should be one way. (on board, set to diode test mode)

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          • DJ_MIX
            Senior Member
            • May 2005
            • 118

            #6
            Re: Help wit Acer 5740 Board [All pins on AC Socket shorting]

            Originally posted by fddizon
            test pin 1 to pin 8..

            reading should be one way. (on board, set to diode test mode)
            I quickly tested both U32 & U35

            and can confirm that I only get readings 1 way on both chips.

            Going to test remaining fets when I get home.

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            • DJ_MIX
              Senior Member
              • May 2005
              • 118

              #7
              Re: Help wit Acer 5740 Board [All pins on AC Socket shorting]

              I'm certain it's U32 & U35
              THey only get flow in one direction but Pin 4 (Gate) should be close but getting flow

              Now schematic has U32, U35 FDS8884-GP
              But actual chips on board are 4800B
              Should I still use 4800B or get FDS8884 mr ether will work

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              • cyberhack
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Feb 2013
                • 466
                • Uk

                #8
                Re: Help wit Acer 5740 Board [All pins on AC Socket shorting]

                in picture 1 the 4 mosfets in arrow the first looks damaged

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                • DJ_MIX
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2005
                  • 118

                  #9
                  Re: Help wit Acer 5740 Board [All pins on AC Socket shorting]

                  Originally posted by cyberhack
                  in picture 1 the 4 mosfets in arrow the first looks damaged
                  Sorry don't see any damage at all to the board besides me removing ac plug..

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                  • whaldsz
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 395
                    • Philippines

                    #10
                    Re: Help wit Acer 5740 Board [All pins on AC Socket shorting]

                    Check voltages of U29, ACOK, ACIN, DCIN of U30.

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                    • DJ_MIX
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2005
                      • 118

                      #11
                      Re: Help wit Acer 5740 Board [All pins on AC Socket shorting]

                      Originally posted by whaldsz
                      Check voltages of U29, ACOK, ACIN, DCIN of U30.
                      I'll give that a shot but, it may not work since I get a short right at ac socket. I even tried removing socket and using my variable power supply and crank it to 18V but only see it supply about 1.X volts.

                      I removed U32 and u35 becuase they look like they might be bad but afther tesing it outside board they appear fine.

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                      • DJ_MIX
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2005
                        • 118

                        #12
                        Re: Help wit Acer 5740 Board [All pins on AC Socket shorting]

                        I give up on this board I supply it 18V with regulated power supply and only get

                        .14v at ac socket Pins.. Thanks for everyones suggestions u29 gets about .14v as well
                        but ac in dc in I get not readings

                        Works fine on battery and also get good readings on U35 and u32 with battery

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                        • dj_ricoh
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 2073
                          • uk

                          #13
                          Re: Help wit Acer 5740 Board [All pins on AC Socket shorting]

                          if you have any boards to take some parts out change RT8206BGQW and it will be ok.
                          i had a samsung notebook and it was supply with 24V and it was running for a week; after it will only work with battery on and charger; if you took out the battery it will not start no power no light, nothing( the battery was not charging)
                          Just cook it! It's already broken.

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