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  • Inforgalaxie
    Member
    • Apr 2023
    • 37
    • Portugal

    #1

    Battery not Charge NM-B421

    Hello i have this circuit and my battery not charge.
    I was changed PU101, PQ103,PQ101,PQ102, the battery and the problem is the same.

    When the bactery is conected:

    PQ103:
    pin1: 19v
    pin4: 19v
    pin5: 11v

    when the bactery is not conected:

    PQ103:
    pin1: 19v
    pin4: 8v
    pin5: 19v

    Why works the opposite? EC Problem and need programing?
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    Last edited by SMDFlea; 11-09-2023, 05:55 AM. Reason: NM-B421
  • piernov
    Super Moderator
    • Jan 2016
    • 4435
    • France

    #2
    Re: Battery not Charge

    NVDC should not produce 19V on main power rail.
    OpenBoardView — https://github.com/OpenBoardView/OpenBoardView

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    • Inforgalaxie
      Member
      • Apr 2023
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      #3
      Re: Battery not Charge

      Yes is true.. What can be...
      Last edited by Inforgalaxie; 11-06-2023, 07:04 AM.

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      • mon2
        Badcaps Legend
        • Dec 2019
        • 13835
        • Canada

        #4
        Re: Battery not Charge

        Which model / make of unit are you repairing? Is there a full schematic in the schematic forum? Post only the links here (not the schematic).

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        • Inforgalaxie
          Member
          • Apr 2023
          • 37
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          #5
          Re: Battery not Charge

          This is the schematic.

          BQ25700
          PIN18 -- Cell Batpres have 0.09V
          PIN 7 -- VDDA have 0.14V

          There is anything wrong...

          ALL BQ25700 Voltages with battery conected: >>lenovo e580

          1- 20v
          2- 20v
          3- 20v
          4- 3,27v
          5- 0,14v
          6- 0,28v
          7- 0,14v
          8- 0,06v
          9- 0,09v
          10- 0v
          11- 1,82v
          12- 3v
          13- 3v
          14- 0v
          15- 1,14v
          16- 0,08v
          17- 0,13v
          18- 0,09v
          19- 10v
          20- 10v
          21- 19v
          22- 19v
          23- 20v
          24- 19v
          25- 19v
          26- 0v
          27- 0v
          28- 6,8v
          29- 0v
          30- 20v
          31-20v
          33-20v
          VDDA , ILIM_HIZ, CELL BATPRES WITH 0V ITS NOT NORMAL...

          [MOD EDIT]
          Link to schematic https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=85795

          Reminder: rules and organization of this section - https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=117483
          .
          Last edited by SMDFlea; 11-09-2023, 05:54 AM.

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          • mon2
            Badcaps Legend
            • Dec 2019
            • 13835
            • Canada

            #6
            Re: Battery not Charge

            Investigate the resistance across PR112. Remove all power. Meter in lowest resistance mode.

            Check the resistance across PR112 which should be ~10 ohms. This resistor is mated with REGN and you have posted REGN (pin #28) = 6 volts. VDDA is the other side of PR112 so VDDA should be ~6 volts. If it is not, PR112 is defective.
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            • Sephir0th
              Badcaps Legend
              • Oct 2020
              • 1256
              • Germany

              #7
              Re: Battery not Charge

              As piernov already highlighted, a NVDC circuit should not deliver 20Volts at B+ and especially no 20V at the BATT+ rail. The simplest reason is usually the right one. A internal shorted PQ101 (or PQ102?) or even worse: You have these Dual-Mosfets not replaced with compatible components? But since you figured also some wrong /missing voltages around the charging controller the issue could be there instead, yes.

              This would be clarified immediately as soon as you share pictures of your work with the replacements visible.
              Last edited by Sephir0th; 11-07-2023, 12:42 AM.
              FairRepair on YouTube

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              • Inforgalaxie
                Member
                • Apr 2023
                • 37
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                #8
                Re: Battery not Charge

                PR112 is gone..not have This resistor in motherboard...maybe when i used hot hair was remove This resistor..

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                • mon2
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Dec 2019
                  • 13835
                  • Canada

                  #9
                  Re: Battery not Charge

                  Post a clear picture of this missing part. It is required to be onboard but a solder short will also work in its place. Want to review the pcb pads where this part was located.

                  Remove all power. Meter in resistance mode. Measure the resistance across the 2 pcb pads for this resistor. What is the resistance?

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                  • Inforgalaxie
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                    • Apr 2023
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                    #10
                    Re: Battery not Charge

                    Ok I will test and will post results.

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                    • Inforgalaxie
                      Member
                      • Apr 2023
                      • 37
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                      #11
                      Re: Battery not Charge

                      I am testing...
                      Last edited by Inforgalaxie; 11-07-2023, 03:01 PM.

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