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  • sedonix
    New Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 1

    #1

    Solar Inverter Caps

    Hello all you bad cappers!
    Just ran across this forum and would like to get your expert opinion on an issue from the solar power world. As a life long electronics type, I have been contending with my solar power forum friends that the new micro-inverters from the Enphase brand are doomed to failure because they have the audacity to think that they can go 10 to 20 years with electrolytic caps inside of a sealed box mounted on a hot roof beneath solar panels. The company swears up and down that these are "hi-rel" caps and they've done accelerated testing on them etc, and has the whole industry trusting them to the tune of 100's of thousands of units per year. Not me baby - give them a few more years in the field and watch out. Sorry, I can't give you the details, but you get the idea. Each unit runs as much as 250W converting 30Vdc to 240Vac, the caps are like 1000uf, running at 60hz.
    I don't know maybe I'm just paranoid, but my first summer job was working at Tektronix in the precision cap department and I've seen bad caps in every kind of consumer electronics. I watched VCR failures for about 10 years and maybe a 100 versions that it took some Panasonic engineer to learn that Elec. Caps aren't spec'd at high frequencies like 50kHz and don't work as good there.
  • stj
    Great Sage 齊天大聖
    • Dec 2009
    • 30941
    • Albion

    #2
    Re: Solar Inverter Caps

    well 60hz is nothing, depending on the ripple and cap it's poss to get 20years+ out of one.
    but not at those temperatures.

    has anybody shoved a thermocouple in the case to see what the ambient is on a summer afternoon?

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    • erictech
      New Member
      • Oct 2010
      • 1

      #3
      Re: Solar Inverter Caps

      My mother in-law was just looking into solar powered today. I just so happened to come across this thread. I'd really like to see how they would hold up against a roof in Central-Valley California (summer temperatures this year peaked at 113 F).

      I'm in no way an electronics expert, a computer nerd, yes! But I seriously doubt at those temperatures, those panels will even remotely last that long...

      P.S. I didn't mean to revive an older thread.

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      • PCBONEZ
        Grumpy Old Fart
        • Aug 2005
        • 10661
        • USA

        #4
        Re: Solar Inverter Caps

        OH COOL!
        LOTS of new cap work coming!!
        .
        Mann-Made Global Warming.
        - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

        -
        Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

        - Dr Seuss
        -
        You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
        -

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        • PCBONEZ
          Grumpy Old Fart
          • Aug 2005
          • 10661
          • USA

          #5
          Re: Solar Inverter Caps

          For lytics each 10C rise in temp reduces the life by 50%.
          Mann-Made Global Warming.
          - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

          -
          Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

          - Dr Seuss
          -
          You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
          -

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          • kc8adu
            Super Moderator
            • Nov 2003
            • 8832
            • U.S.A!

            #6
            Re: Solar Inverter Caps

            post a pic of one opened up.

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            • japlytic
              Badcaps Legend
              • Oct 2005
              • 2086
              • Australia

              #7
              Re: Solar Inverter Caps

              At a home show, I've seen a solar inverter with clear plastic showing quality Hitachi electrolytics, along with other Japanese electrolytics too.
              My first choice in quality Japanese electrolytics is Nippon Chemi-Con, which has been in business since 1931... the quality of electronics is dependent on the quality of the electrolytics.

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              • shovenose
                Send Doge Memes
                • Aug 2010
                • 6575
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Solar Inverter Caps

                that was a showcase. do we know what they actually use in the units the sell?

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