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  • tester2
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    • Sep 2012
    • 28
    • ca

    #1

    My ATA PAP2T-NA Adapter Bricked, I want to fix

    hi guys i need your help, i got PAP2T-NA which is not working, just hang on 2 Lights on it 1 is Red & 1 is Green.

    So i like to know how to fix this PAP2T.

    I am attaching Photo, please have a look.

    As well as I attach the Picture of PAP2T Motherboard.


    Hopefully waiting for your reply
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  • nitelite
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    • Apr 2013
    • 11
    • USA

    #2
    Re: My ATA PAP2T-NA Adapter Bricked, I want to fix

    I have repaired a pap2 but it is a different revision than yours. https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=29433

    Mine had a bad transistor that I found by plugging the board in and touching components one at a time till I found one that was hot to the touch. Using an ohm meter I confirmed the failed component. See my thread for the readings.

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    • tester2
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      • Sep 2012
      • 28
      • ca

      #3
      Re: My ATA PAP2T-NA Adapter Bricked, I want to fix

      hi there, i apparicate for your reply.

      do you think my board having same issue, or on my board a CHIP which hold software having poor soldaring, i even don't know where is the CHIP on this Board & where is Q156 located.

      And you board having issue about "Loude Static", but my board having diffrent issue, i think my board having issue of loading software while rebooting PAP2T, so it is showing 1 Red & 1Green Light.

      Thanks

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      • shortchange
        Member
        • Jan 2012
        • 27

        #4
        Re: My ATA PAP2T-NA Adapter Bricked, I want to fix

        Hi,
        Still repairing?
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        • tester2
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          • Sep 2012
          • 28
          • ca

          #5
          Re: My ATA PAP2T-NA Adapter Bricked, I want to fix

          hi guys, sorry for the delay, because i order "Soldaring Rework station smd 898D",

          So i resolder the above as shown in Post#4, still I am having same light are ON. As well as I did HOTAIR Flow over the Chip also, still same 1 red & i green light ON.

          So i like to know "How to check which component is Damage on the Board",

          Can any body let me know the procedure to check Component on the Board, then i will check one by one.

          Thanks

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          • tester2
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            • Sep 2012
            • 28
            • ca

            #6
            Re: My ATA PAP2T-NA Adapter Bricked, I want to fix

            hi guys, i am still trying to fix this PAP2T, any help appricated.

            Thanks

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            • ben7
              Capaholic
              • Jan 2011
              • 4059
              • USA

              #7
              Re: My ATA PAP2T-NA Adapter Bricked, I want to fix

              Originally posted by tester2
              hi guys, i am still trying to fix this PAP2T, any help appricated.

              Thanks
              Check U11 and U12 to see if they are good. If you are not sure how to check them, then tell us what numbers/letters are written on them?

              They are most likely voltage regulators ... transistors are marked with a 'Q'; integrated circuits with 'IC' or 'U'.
              Muh-soggy-knee

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              • tester2
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                • ca

                #8
                Re: My ATA PAP2T-NA Adapter Bricked, I want to fix

                hi there, please let me know, by using multimeter RED Wire led & BLACK Wire led where i have to touch on U11 & U12 pins.
                And on which reading I have to adjust my Multimeter Pointer for example 2000K etc. I am having exactly same this Multimeter.

                I already saw U11 & U12 on my Board.

                Please how to check this is good or Bad, then i will check and post my result.

                Thanks
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                Last edited by tester2; 12-08-2013, 09:20 PM.

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                • ben7
                  Capaholic
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 4059
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: My ATA PAP2T-NA Adapter Bricked, I want to fix

                  Originally posted by tester2
                  hi there, please let me know, by using multimeter RED Wire led & BLACK Wire led where i have to touch on U11 & U12 pins.
                  And on which reading I have to adjust my Multimeter Pointer for example 2000K etc. I am having exactly same this Multimeter.

                  I already saw U11 & U12 on my Board.

                  Please how to check this is good or Bad, then i will check and post my result.

                  Thanks
                  Ok, that is what I thought. Yes I can tell you where to measure them, but you have to tell us what the part numbers are on U11 and U12 ... the pictures aren't good enough to see the part numbers.
                  Muh-soggy-knee

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                  • tester2
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                    • Sep 2012
                    • 28
                    • ca

                    #10
                    Re: My ATA PAP2T-NA Adapter Bricked, I want to fix

                    hi there, here it is the part numbers

                    U11 -- AMC1117, F0823J
                    U12 -- AMC1117, F0823J

                    both of them having same part numbers, i look very carefull, there is no mistake in part numbers, i use a lense which is use to fix WATCHES, so i put board close to my eyes and i read with lenses clearly.

                    When I order SMD REWORK STATION i order this Glasses also, so i have all the instruments to check the BAD parts.

                    Thanks
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                    Last edited by tester2; 12-09-2013, 09:17 AM.

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                    • fixitdaz
                      New Member
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 1
                      • UK

                      #11
                      Re: My ATA PAP2T-NA Adapter Bricked, I want to fix

                      Originally posted by tester2
                      hi guys, sorry for the delay, because i order "Soldaring Rework station smd 898D",

                      So i resolder the above as shown in Post#4, still I am having same light are ON. As well as I did HOTAIR Flow over the Chip also, still same 1 red & i green light ON.

                      So i like to know "How to check which component is Damage on the Board",

                      Can any body let me know the procedure to check Component on the Board, then i will check one by one.

                      Thanks
                      sorry to read you purchased a 898D rework station,we had the hot air gun transistor fail and put power on to the element (Failed closed) causing the hot air gun to overheat and melt this is the video we made after the event.

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                      • tester2
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                        • Sep 2012
                        • 28
                        • ca

                        #12
                        Re: My ATA PAP2T-NA Adapter Bricked, I want to fix

                        hi there i am still waiting to know "how to check U11 & U12"

                        thanks

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                        • ben7
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                          • Jan 2011
                          • 4059
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: My ATA PAP2T-NA Adapter Bricked, I want to fix

                          Originally posted by tester2
                          hi there i am still waiting to know "how to check U11 & U12"

                          thanks
                          Yes yes, patience! I didn't get home 'till late last night, and I was tired... sooo, yeah.

                          Ok, this is the pinout for the AMC1117's
                          http://www.seekic.com/uploadfile/ic-...5991839498.jpg

                          Find a spot that is connected to ground on the PCB and connect your black probe to there, then measure the voltage at the input and output pins of both regulators. Report back your readings!

                          Just a note ... the pin in that image which is marked 'ADJ/GND' .... don't use it as a ground point! It is likely not connected to ground, instead it is probably connected to a resistor divider to set the output voltage!
                          Muh-soggy-knee

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                          • tester2
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                            #14
                            Re: My ATA PAP2T-NA Adapter Bricked, I want to fix

                            Please make me correct in the pictures

                            Picture 1 & 2 where i mark, that is same pin, can i use that for GROUND purpose.

                            Picture 3 & 4 where i mark, can i assume that is Pin2 (V out) & Pin3 (V in).

                            Thanks
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                            Last edited by tester2; 12-10-2013, 11:31 AM.

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                            • ben7
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                              #15
                              Re: My ATA PAP2T-NA Adapter Bricked, I want to fix

                              Originally posted by tester2
                              Please make me correct in the pictures

                              Picture 1 & 2 where i mark, can i use that for GROUND purpose.

                              Picture 3 & 4 where i mark, can i assume that is Pin2 (V out) & Pin3 (V in).

                              Thanks
                              Yep, Looks like you have got it right! :P

                              Now, what are the voltages?
                              Muh-soggy-knee

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                              • tester2
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                                #16
                                Re: My ATA PAP2T-NA Adapter Bricked, I want to fix

                                on my Multimeter, where i have to Adjust in VDC, please let me know. Can i Adjust 20V DC.

                                UPDATE :

                                I Power ON PAP2T then i touch Black Probe to GROUND & Red Probe to Pin 2 & 3 on both IC's, there is no reading shows. it shows just 0.00.
                                Last edited by tester2; 12-10-2013, 11:50 AM.

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                                • ben7
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                                  • Jan 2011
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                                  #17
                                  Re: My ATA PAP2T-NA Adapter Bricked, I want to fix

                                  Originally posted by tester2
                                  on my Multimeter, where i have to Adjust in VDC, please let me know. Can i Adjust 20V DC.

                                  UPDATE :

                                  I Power ON PAP2T then i touch Black Probe to GROUND & Red Probe to Pin 1 & 2 on both IC's, there is no reading shows. it shows just 0.00.
                                  Well that 'ground' point you marked may not be ground. Try measuring the voltage with the black probe on the negative of one of the electrolytic capacitors.
                                  Muh-soggy-knee

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                                  • tester2
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                                    #18
                                    Re: My ATA PAP2T-NA Adapter Bricked, I want to fix

                                    I don't know which one is the Electrolyte Capacitors. So i use the one which you mark for GROUND on IC that is PIN1 then i got readings below

                                    U11 -- Pin2 : 0.76, Pin3 : 1.66,
                                    U12 -- Pin2 : 0.63, Pin3 : 1.53,
                                    Last edited by tester2; 12-10-2013, 12:12 PM.

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                                    • ben7
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                                      #19
                                      Re: My ATA PAP2T-NA Adapter Bricked, I want to fix

                                      Originally posted by tester2
                                      I don't know which one is the Electrolyte Capacitors. So i use the one which you mark for GROUND on IC that is PIN1 then i got readings below

                                      U11 -- Pin2 : 0.76, Pin3 : 1.66,
                                      U12 -- Pin2 : 0.63, Pin3 : 1.53,
                                      The electrolytic capacitors are the cylindrical things with a shiny metal top. They have a strip on one side, that is the negative side. The pin on the bottom which is closer to the stripe is the negative pin.
                                      Muh-soggy-knee

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                                      • tester2
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                                        #20
                                        Re: My ATA PAP2T-NA Adapter Bricked, I want to fix

                                        When i touch Black Probe on Electrolyte Capacitor of Negative Pin then Red probe on IC Pins

                                        U11 -- Pin2 : 1.71, Pin3 : 2.60,
                                        U12 -- Pin2 : 0.95, Pin3 : 1.84,

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