lcd monitor problems- troubleshooting [including dell E172FPb]

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • davegreat
    New Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 2

    #1

    lcd monitor problems- troubleshooting [including dell E172FPb]

    many people have noted two primary failures with this monitor. i have a couple time-saving troubleshooting tips, which actually apply to mostly all electronic devices. first, of course, bulging electrolytics [capacitors] should be considered suspect. i personally usually replace all the filter [power supply] caps as a matter of practice, since they are the 'hardest worked' component. anyway, a good way to test then [if you dont't have a capacitor tester capable of testing them at working voltage] is to check the voltage across the cap terminals, with your meter set to the A.C. volt scale. it should read close to zero, with only perhaps a few millivolts max. this test is only valid for the filter caps, many smaller caps are bypass or coupling caps, and you will get a reading. secondly, the transistors- many references have been made to shorted transistors in the inverter circuit. it has been stated that the transistors must be removed to test them. in almost all cases, they can be tested in circuit- first, if you're lucky enough to have an old analog vo. [such as the simpson 360, or tripplett 630] you can usually get an accurate test using the rx10 or rx100 scale. it is always possible to get an inaccurate reading depending on how it is configured in the circuit. - but a very good, accurate test is to measure the voltage between the emitter and base [while the unit is powered on, of course] you should get aproxomitately
    .7 [seven tenths] of a volt if the transistor is on and conducting. this test applies to almost all electronics. the only variatin in this rule is if the transistor is a germanium type [you won't see them unless the device is from the late 1950's to mid 1960's] in which case the voltage reading will be more like 1.2 volts. also, in some cases, darlinton [multiple transistors in one case] occasionally behave differently, but you should still get a reading close to .7. on most inverter boards, the transistors are a TO-22 case. with the outer leads being the emitter and base, and the center lead the collector. in many devices, you may actually see the center [collector] lead cut, appearing to have no connection. this is because they are using the actual mounting tab, which connects to the collector, to make the connection. you should see the B+ [power supply voltage,] present at the collector to ground. i hope the readers find thid info helpful, and remember, these test procedures work for pretty much all electronics. - and one other thing- when testing capacitors, if you have an oscilloscope, you can take the reading across the cap terminals, and you should see a virtually flat line- if the cap is bad, you'll see a sawtooth pattern. one word of caution- if you use a scope, use a three-prong adapter on the ac plug of the scope, and defeat [don't connect] the earth ground of the scope. this is because many of the power supplies used have the common [ground] above earth ground potential, and you can actually damage it when you connect the ground lead of the scope-i've had it happen- especially in a few of the older sony tv's!

Related Topics

Collapse

  • mm1nd
    LG Gram 17 (17Z90N-R) ADVANCED troubleshooting Power On Self-Test (POST)
    by mm1nd
    My LG Gram 17 (LG GRAM 17Z90N-R 17Z90N-R.AAC8U1 i7-1065G7 CPU + 8GB Motherboard EAX68997002) does not seem to even get to the point to try to boot from media (the nvme SSD is fine, I verified it on a separate computer) or turn on the display.

    I have tried basic troubleshooting steps, remove the battery, disconnect the display, remove the RAM card, connect an external HDMI display. The behavior is always the same, the laptop turns on, shows the keyboard backlight, starts the fan, then it turns off the fan/light briefly, it does this sequence multiple times, let's say 6-7 times. Eventually...
    07-25-2024, 03:53 PM
  • tvguy12012012120
    Zombie Samsung UN55NU6900F dead / no standby voltage - randomly came to life after hours of troubleshooting then died
    by tvguy12012012120
    This is my first attempt at troubleshooting a board like this, I know I could just buy a new board but I'm curious to figure out how this works. I've been testing different components in the evenings this week and I think the problem is with the IC failing to start up for some reason. When the board is plugged in there is no standby voltage.

    Then today it randomly sprung to life like a zombie but shortly died thereafter. I have no idea why it would have done that and its the first time I've seen it running. I discharged capacitors on the board last night, then it was sitting today....
    02-07-2025, 05:13 PM
  • chth96
    How Can I test PWM DM0365R?
    by chth96
    Hello
    I have power adaptor(220V/input, 12V 1.2A/output) which has symptom of fluctuating output DC voltage between 11.5V-12.2V.
    So I opened its plastic case and when switched it on, I heard constant tik tik sound from inside its PCB.
    I measured DC voltage between negative and positive pin of the largest capacitor(400v 10uf) and it was measured contant 300V.
    I also measured ESR value of all capacitors and I noticed that one of capacitor(KMG 16v 470uf), which located in the secondary side, have high ESR value(10 ohm),So I replaced it with same specification NXH capacitor....
    06-18-2025, 04:14 PM
  • khelane
    test active pfc power with lamp test
    by khelane
    Hello
    I have a big problem and that is that in some cases when repairing active pfc power supplies I cannot work with a test lamp. I can only get help with 5 volts standby and for starting and starting I have to work without a lamp and this way there is a possibility of parts exploding and other parts being added.
    Sometimes with a multimeter test the problems can be reduced to some extent, but I had several cases that had to be tested on and online and recently two varistors exploded. They had terrible resistance because the power supplies were over 800 watts.
    Is there a way...
    06-03-2025, 01:00 AM
  • chronic519
    Mats / mods: detected and repaired GPU fault. Cant seem to test after!
    by chronic519
    Hello.

    GPU came in, green lines. Spent lots of time using to get the Mats / mods drive working (found on youtube).
    Found issue with a RAM block
    Replaced, green lines gone.
    Trying to test again, assuming getting the false positive. Originally had over 1K on a single bank. Now getting tosses low between banks.
    Used a good card to test and same results low errors 32+.

    I am just search for some form of command to do a full test on the GPU.
    I just ran the mats command with my good GPU and passed after roughly 40 min.
    The repaired one, ran...
    05-20-2025, 07:56 PM
  • Loading...
  • No more items.
Working...