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  • matthmal
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Nov 2012
    • 306
    • Malta

    #1

    LG Flatron L194WT-SF - 2 seconds to black

    Hi Guys,

    I have an LG Flatron L194WT-SF which around 5 years ago stopped working, I opened it and replaced a bulged cap on the power board and worked fine till now. Lately it started to do 2 seconds to black, the LG logo starts to come up and goes off instantly, I re-opened the monitor and found the remaining caps on the power board all bulged except the one which I replaced 5 years ago.
    I replaced the remaining caps but unfortunately the monitor persisted with the problem.

    Any suggestions please? P.S. I also tried the bulb test and the bulbs didn't turn on.

    Thanks,
    Matt
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  • Agent24
    I see dead caps
    • Oct 2007
    • 4959
    • New Zealand

    #2
    Re: LG Flatron L194WT-SF - 2 seconds to black

    What do you mean "The bulb test" ?
    "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
    -David VanHorn

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    • matthmal
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Nov 2012
      • 306
      • Malta

      #3
      Re: LG Flatron L194WT-SF - 2 seconds to black

      With the bulb test I mean that I connected external CCFL bulbs (which I removed from other monitors) and the bulbs still didn't light up

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      • Agent24
        I see dead caps
        • Oct 2007
        • 4959
        • New Zealand

        #4
        Re: LG Flatron L194WT-SF - 2 seconds to black

        Check the power supply rails are OK and within spec and if anything changes between startup and after the image disappears.

        Did you check with a torch or other bright light shone on the screen to see if the image stays on the screen after the backlights go out, or does the image disappear as well?


        If you still have image, it sounds like an inverter problem.

        Check for bad solder joints on the PCB. I see what could be bad joints on D101, D102, FB102 for example. Reflow any that look suspicious.

        Test inverter transformer drive transistors U304 and U303 for shorts

        Can you give the part number of inverter controller IC U301?
        "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
        -David VanHorn

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        • matthmal
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Nov 2012
          • 306
          • Malta

          #5
          Re: LG Flatron L194WT-SF - 2 seconds to black

          Hi, I cannot see anything with a torch.

          Any idea of how to test the transistors? searched the internet and it seems like you need a special board. i only have a multimeter.

          the part number of the IC U301 is as follows:
          OZ9938GN
          A6DARU.3G
          0710P

          Thanks for your time,
          Matt

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #6
            Re: LG Flatron L194WT-SF - 2 seconds to black

            What DCV do you hvae on the 'ON (BL-ON, or INVER -ON)' pin and the DIM pin, and the 12V pin of the connector J1 of that power supply/inverter board?
            Last edited by budm; 08-03-2015, 03:02 PM.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • matthmal
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Nov 2012
              • 306
              • Malta

              #7
              Re: LG Flatron L194WT-SF - 2 seconds to black

              Hi,

              Kindly note the below readings of the J1 connector:
              12V -> 15.4V
              ON -> 0V
              DIM -> 0V

              I also taken the voltage of the big cap, it is 383V, whereas it is rated 100uF 450V.

              Any suggestions please?

              Thanks,
              Matt

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              • budm
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2010
                • 40746
                • USA

                #8
                Re: LG Flatron L194WT-SF - 2 seconds to black

                Originally posted by matthmal
                Hi,

                Kindly note the below readings of the J1 connector:
                12V -> 15.4V
                ON -> 0V
                DIM -> 0V

                I also taken the voltage of the big cap, it is 383V, whereas it is rated 100uF 450V.

                Any suggestions please?

                Thanks,
                Matt
                If that is what you have when the monitor is turned on and connected to the running PC, then you have logic board problem, it is not sending out the ON (Backlights on signal, nor the Dimming control signal.
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • TVRepairNoobie
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2015
                  • 158
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: LG Flatron L194WT-SF - 2 seconds to black

                  matthmal,

                  I have seen one bad CCFL will also result in the 2 second to black issue.
                  Do you have a CCFL tester to make sure your CCFL is good?

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                  • matthmal
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 306
                    • Malta

                    #10
                    Re: LG Flatron L194WT-SF - 2 seconds to black

                    Originally posted by budm
                    If that is what you have when the monitor is turned on and connected to the running PC, then you have logic board problem, it is not sending out the ON (Backlights on signal, nor the Dimming control signal.
                    Those are with both boards connected to the power but not to the screen and pc, will retake the readings with everything connected. The negative probe should be on the GND right?

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                    • matthmal
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • Nov 2012
                      • 306
                      • Malta

                      #11
                      Re: LG Flatron L194WT-SF - 2 seconds to black

                      Originally posted by TVRepairNoobie
                      matthmal,

                      I have seen one bad CCFL will also result in the 2 second to black issue.
                      Do you have a CCFL tester to make sure your CCFL is good?
                      I do not ave a CCFL tester but usually i connect extra CCFL bulbs that i have, i will retry the test.

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                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: LG Flatron L194WT-SF - 2 seconds to black

                        Originally posted by matthmal
                        Those are with both boards connected to the power but not to the screen and pc, will retake the readings with everything connected. The negative probe should be on the GND right?
                        Yes, without the Video signals from PC most monitor will go into standby mode within seconds.
                        test lamps for testing the board:
                        https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=19987
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        • matthmal
                          Badcaps Veteran
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 306
                          • Malta

                          #13
                          Re: LG Flatron L194WT-SF - 2 seconds to black

                          Originally posted by budm
                          Yes, without the Video signals from PC most monitor will go into standby mode within seconds.
                          test lamps for testing the board:
                          https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=19987
                          Thanks, will retry the tests tonight and will let you know.

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                          • matthmal
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • Nov 2012
                            • 306
                            • Malta

                            #14
                            Re: LG Flatron L194WT-SF - 2 seconds to black

                            Originally posted by budm
                            Yes, without the Video signals from PC most monitor will go into standby mode within seconds.
                            test lamps for testing the board:
                            https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=19987
                            Hi,

                            I have done the test as you suggested. The attached photo shows that one set of bulbs turn on and the other set tries to turn on with the result that both sets of bulbs turn off.

                            I have re-done the voltage tests as below:
                            12v -> 16.7V
                            12v -> 16.7V
                            GND
                            GND
                            5v -> 5V
                            5v -> 5V
                            GND
                            N.C -> 0V
                            ON -> 3.3V
                            DIM -> 3.3V
                            M/S -> 4.4V

                            Thanks,
                            Matt
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