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  • rawlings42
    Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 11
    • uk

    #1

    Looking for some Help Hannsg HD281D flashing BLUE led startup

    Hi guys, Feeling a complete idiot at the moment, fixed the distorted video and switching off after 10 secs, with replacement caps on the video signal board

    After 1 hour of trouble free testing, unplugged mains and started to rebuild.

    after i disconnected the lead from PSU to Inverter board it grounded out ( i think) and i heard a loud discharge noise.

    Since then Blue led flashing only.

    Checked all the main capacitors recommended for replacement elsewhere, all measured in limits with Fluke multimeter, uf seem all OK.

    have 5v but no 12v or 24v, inverter board not lighting up. Flashing blue LED only.

    Are there any people out there with some checks to do?.... HELP

    read a little about startup capacitors, but have i popped something more serious?
    No obvious signs of damaged componants etc

    I have a background in electrical/electronics but feel stupid after fixing this unit then damaging it ...aaarrrrghh
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  • selldoor
    Slow Learner
    • Dec 2010
    • 7870

    #2
    Re: Looking for some Help Hannsg HD281D flashing BLUE led startup

    Pictures need to be a bit sharper and need main board and panel board.
    Just say again what happened.
    Which end of which cable do you think grounded? on what? Pins are usually covered on leads and open on board? so it would be all plastic? or were the boards loose and grounded on the frame?

    What is the part number of the power supply board and does the heatsink come off easily or is it soldered.
    Last edited by selldoor; 08-24-2012, 07:32 AM.
    Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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    • Th3_uN1Qu3
      Believe in
      • Jul 2010
      • 6031
      • Romania

      #3
      Re: Looking for some Help Hannsg HD281D flashing BLUE led startup

      You have either shorted a diode, or simply blown a fuse. You say you don't get 12v or 24v. Check for fuses on those rails.
      Originally posted by PeteS in CA
      Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
      A working TV? How boring!

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      • rawlings42
        Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 11
        • uk

        #4
        Re: Looking for some Help Hannsg HD281D flashing BLUE led startup

        Originally posted by selldoor
        Pictures need to be a bit sharper and need main board and panel board.
        Just say again what happened.
        Which end of which cable do you think grounded? on what? Pins are usually covered on leads and open on board? so it would be all plastic? or were the boards loose and grounded on the frame?

        What is the part number of the power supply board and does the heatsink come off easily or is it soldered.
        Thanks newer photos attached,
        fixed original fault with digital input board, all ok working fine,
        When it came time to fix all boards into place and full rebuild - this happened...
        as i disconnected the cable from psu to inverter board it touched the rear of the lcd panel, and sparked across - this is when i heard the discharge noise.

        I cant say for definate that it wasnt the psu shorting, this was in its place in the rear cover at the time, and it was being moved with the cable at the time it went bang.

        I have another monitor and swapped the PSU out , all ok
        So im confident the panel and the input board are still ok and fully working , the fault lies within the psu board.

        Hope that gives a bit better indication

        PSU p/n 71-y2831200g001, heatsinks are screwed on top but the soldered.

        thanks
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        • selldoor
          Slow Learner
          • Dec 2010
          • 7870

          #5
          Re: Looking for some Help Hannsg HD281D flashing BLUE led startup

          You will need to check for fuses on the power supply board as we cant see them.
          Could be any shape or size - if your not familiar -google images fuse will give ideas
          if you can see the board designations should be Fxxx but refer anything with an F in it.

          On the main board I cant spot any fuses but there are around a dozen components labeled FBxx Some are zero resistors and some are ferrite beads - can you test them all as if a fuse. Report any that are higher than touching your probes together
          Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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          • rawlings42
            Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 11
            • uk

            #6
            Re: Looking for some Help Hannsg HD281D flashing BLUE led startup

            Originally posted by selldoor
            You will need to check for fuses on the power supply board as we cant see them.
            Could be any shape or size - if your not familiar -google images fuse will give ideas
            if you can see the board designations should be Fxxx but refer anything with an F in it.

            On the main board I cant spot any fuses but there are around a dozen components labeled FBxx Some are zero resistors and some are ferrite beads - can you test them all as if a fuse. Report any that are higher than touching your probes together
            Hi Thanks, there is only 1 main fuse, thats OK , nothing else labelled with an F prefix, some 0 rated surface mount pieces all OK, thanks for your advice tho'
            dave

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            • budm
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2010
              • 40746
              • USA

              #7
              Re: Looking for some Help Hannsg HD281D flashing BLUE led startup

              Is this the same as yours?
              http://s807.photobucket.com/albums/y...NNSG%20HG281D/
              There is the PS_ON isganl form main board to the power supply board to turn on the the 12/24V power supply circuits.
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

              TV Factory reset codes listing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              • rawlings42
                Member
                • Aug 2012
                • 11
                • uk

                #8
                Re: Looking for some Help Hannsg HD281D flashing BLUE led startup

                Originally posted by budm
                Is this the same as yours?
                http://s807.photobucket.com/albums/y...NNSG%20HG281D/
                There is the PS_ON isganl form main board to the power supply board to turn on the the 12/24V power supply circuits.
                yep looks exactley the same,

                i have 2 same monitors, 1 perfectly working ok, took psu board and placed in the faulty display and all worked ok.
                so my (smaller) pcb the main board is ok??
                swapping the main psu only made the faulty unit work.

                thanks the pson signal does sound right though

                dave

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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Looking for some Help Hannsg HD281D flashing BLUE led startup

                  OK, you have verified that the power supply is bad for sure, and since you have two power supplies, one is good, one is bad, then you can compare resistance reading between the two boards.
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • rawlings42
                    Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 11
                    • uk

                    #10
                    Re: Looking for some Help Hannsg HD281D flashing BLUE led startup

                    Originally posted by budm
                    OK, you have verified that the power supply is bad for sure, and since you have two power supplies, one is good, one is bad, then you can compare resistance reading between the two boards.
                    Yep I know, but using the other as working PC monitor, dont want to strip down but, if i have to. Wanted to see if anyone could help rather than blindly checking. Appreciate your help

                    dave

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                    • budm
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: Looking for some Help Hannsg HD281D flashing BLUE led startup

                      Without the diagram and without knowing which pins got shorted out will make it hard to troubleshoot, but you can at least do some visual inspection, and Transistors/Diode/IC checking with the meter will be the starting point.
                      Also try to download the data sheet of the IC so at least you will know how they are used.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • rawlings42
                        Member
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 11
                        • uk

                        #12
                        Re: Looking for some Help Hannsg HD281D flashing BLUE led startup

                        Thanks all

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