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  • AloofOne
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    • Jan 2012
    • 26

    #1

    I-Inc IF281D Display Problem

    Hi all I'm new here and while searching for internet for possible solutions to my problem i noticed this great forum and thought i would ask for any advice that might help me solve this issue.

    I have an I-Inc 28inch monitor that has a display/power problem. One day while i was at the office i tried turning the monitor on and was working fine for about a minute or so until it shut itself down. I turned the monitor back on again and this time it shut down in about 20secs, a third time and it shut down almost immediately. I tried different power cables and different inputs but get the same result.

    I called the manufacturer who promptly told me the monitor is out of warranty and could not help me. So instead of trashing this nice monitor i was hoping to repair it. Any advice would be appreciated =).
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  • jetadm123
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 2169

    #2
    Re: I-Inc IF281D Display Problem

    Please post a photo of the entire inverter board. A overhead shot is preferred because that allows us to see all the components. And take your photos as if you're asked to read the printing on the board itself. Your previous photos of the printing at an angle and sideways makes for akward viewing.
    Last edited by jetadm123; 01-07-2012, 02:50 PM.

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    • AloofOne
      Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 26

      #3
      Re: I-Inc IF281D Display Problem

      Here is the inverter board picture. If you need more let me know. again thanks for your help.
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      • jetadm123
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 2169

        #4
        Re: I-Inc IF281D Display Problem

        What you're showing is the power supply. The inverter is the board that generates the high voltage for the backlighting. In your third photo, it appears to be the board at the very top with all the transformers on it.

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        • AloofOne
          Member
          • Jan 2012
          • 26

          #5
          Re: I-Inc IF281D Display Problem

          i removed the inverter board from the monitor but it has some plastic cover over which is very difficult to remove.
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          • retiredcaps
            Badcaps Legend
            • Apr 2010
            • 9271

            #6
            Re: I-Inc IF281D Display Problem

            Originally posted by AloofOne
            I turned the monitor back on again and this time it shut down in about 20secs, a third time and it shut down almost immediately.
            You might be experiencing 2 seconds to black. Read through posts #19 and #20 at

            https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=10419

            2 seconds to black can be (in no particular order)

            a) bad caps
            b) bad inverter transformer
            c) bad ccfls
            d) bad ccfl wiring (especially the return wire)
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            • AloofOne
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              • Jan 2012
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              #7
              Re: I-Inc IF281D Display Problem

              thank you, i'll read through the posts.

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              • AloofOne
                Member
                • Jan 2012
                • 26

                #8
                Re: I-Inc IF281D Display Problem

                hello again, sorry i haven't replied in some time i was sick last week and haven't been able to do any testing. I was able to borrow a friends DMM of decent quality so i'm hoping my readings with be accurate.

                i tested the monitor yesterday by turning it on and just leaving it alone for awhile. It went into standby (orange light) and stayed on for hours as long as i didn't try to input a signal in which case it would turn off shortly after. i noticed that on the video board 1 of the chips (ic controller?) had a solder bridge. Not sure if that has anything to do with my problem. Anyways i checked all the caps and they seem fine in appearance but from reading the forums here i know that they can still be bad.

                Any advice from here would be appreciated.

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                • jetadm123
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 2169

                  #9
                  Re: I-Inc IF281D Display Problem

                  Well, it appears that the printing on the power board indicates the output voltages are 5v and 24v. Correct? The 24v should feed the inverter and the 5v supplies the video board. I suggest piecing everything back together and measuring for these voltages at the wiring harnesses connected to each board.

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                  • AloofOne
                    Member
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 26

                    #10
                    Re: I-Inc IF281D Display Problem

                    Says on the board. model# FSP217-4F02, DC Output +5.0V -1.5A, +5.0V - 4.35A,+24.0V - 5.5A, +12.0V - 4.77A.

                    i've also taken some readings on the board prior to your post i hope they help.
                    Q1 = 30.01
                    Q2 = 30.10
                    Q3 = 31.65
                    Q4 = 28.35
                    QS1 = 29.99 2 on that heat sink the other read 000.1
                    F1 = 000.1-000.2 (fuse)
                    D10 = 0.610 / 0
                    D8 = 0.423 / 0
                    D5 = 0.617 / 0
                    D7 = 37 - 40 but doesn't look like a diode must be mislabled

                    Hope this helps some.

                    How do you test the voltage at the wire harness?

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                    • jetadm123
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 2169

                      #11
                      Re: I-Inc IF281D Display Problem

                      To measure the voltage off the wiring harnesses, set your meter to DC volts, place your black probe on a good ground point. Each wiring harness is plugged into a connector on the power board with the other end plugged into the inverter, logic board,etc. With your red probe, try measuring the bare wire coming out the back of that connector. Be careful, as those wires look like their close together. If it's easier to get to, then try measuring the voltages from underneath the board.

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                      • AloofOne
                        Member
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 26

                        #12
                        Re: I-Inc IF281D Display Problem

                        Okay i'm back with more information.

                        I took some readings from video board with the power plugged in and connected the power board.

                        Rail 1 = 5.09

                        Rail 2 =
                        Yellow = -21.7
                        Orange = -21.7
                        Red = 5.07
                        Green = -21.7
                        Brown = -21.7

                        here is a photo of the area i took readings from
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                        • retiredcaps
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                          • Apr 2010
                          • 9271

                          #13
                          Re: I-Inc IF281D Display Problem

                          Originally posted by AloofOne
                          Rail 2 =
                          Yellow = -21.7
                          Orange = -21.7
                          Red = 5.07
                          Green = -21.7
                          Brown = -21.7
                          If you are getting negative voltages, you are probably using the wrong ground point. Use a screw (like the one by CN4/CN3) on the main board and remeasure.
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                          • retiredcaps
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                            • Apr 2010
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                            #14
                            Re: I-Inc IF281D Display Problem

                            Originally posted by AloofOne
                            i've also taken some readings on the board prior to your post i hope they help.
                            Q1 = 30.01
                            Q2 = 30.10
                            Q3 = 31.65
                            Q4 = 28.35
                            QS1 = 29.99 2 on that heat sink the other read 000.1
                            F1 = 000.1-000.2 (fuse)
                            D10 = 0.610 / 0
                            D8 = 0.423 / 0
                            D5 = 0.617 / 0
                            D7 = 37 - 40 but doesn't look like a diode must be mislabled

                            Hope this helps some.
                            Regarding the way you are reporting the numbers above. See

                            https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...2&postcount=31
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                            • AloofOne
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                              • Jan 2012
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                              #15
                              Re: I-Inc IF281D Display Problem

                              i used the black wire from the set as ground. i'll try using a screw. As far as the reading i just copied what i saw from the DMM which has autorange on. do you need me to list which is a resistance test or diode test? i'm not a pro at using this meter. =)

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                              • AloofOne
                                Member
                                • Jan 2012
                                • 26

                                #16
                                Re: I-Inc IF281D Display Problem

                                Test 2 using a screw

                                Rail 1 = 5.14V

                                Rail 2
                                Yellow = 0
                                Orange = 0
                                Red = 5.14V
                                Green = 0
                                Brown = 0
                                Black = 21.8V
                                Last edited by AloofOne; 01-14-2012, 04:26 PM.

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                                • AloofOne
                                  Member
                                  • Jan 2012
                                  • 26

                                  #17
                                  Re: I-Inc IF281D Display Problem

                                  Here you go.

                                  Q1 = 30.01 (resistance)
                                  Q2 = 30.10 (resistance)
                                  Q3 = 31.65 (resistance)
                                  Q4 = 28.35 (resistance)
                                  QS1 = 29.99 2 on that heat sink the other read 000.1 (resistance)
                                  F1 = 000.1-000.2 (fuse) (Resistance)
                                  D10 = 0.610 / 0 (diode test mode)
                                  D8 = 0.423 / 0 (diode test mode)
                                  D5 = 0.617 / 0 (diode test mode)
                                  D7 = 37 - 40 but doesn't look like a diode must be mislabled (resistance)

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                                  • jetadm123
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Feb 2010
                                    • 2169

                                    #18
                                    Re: I-Inc IF281D Display Problem

                                    Originally posted by AloofOne
                                    Test 2 using a screw

                                    Rail 1 = 5.14V

                                    Rail 2
                                    Yellow = 0
                                    Orange = 0
                                    Red = 5.14V
                                    Green = 0
                                    Brown = 0
                                    Black = 21.8V
                                    It looks like the power board is outputting 5V and something close to 24V. I suggest connecting the boards back together and measuring the voltage at each pin of the devices circled in the photo.
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                                    • AloofOne
                                      Member
                                      • Jan 2012
                                      • 26

                                      #19
                                      Re: I-Inc IF281D Display Problem

                                      ok here are the results

                                      smaller chip =
                                      2.2Vdc
                                      1.805vdc
                                      3.304vdc

                                      Larger Chip=
                                      2.3vdc
                                      3.304vdc
                                      5.14vdc

                                      I take another photo of the video board so its easier to see.
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                                      • jetadm123
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Feb 2010
                                        • 2169

                                        #20
                                        Re: I-Inc IF281D Display Problem

                                        The voltages look good. With a computer connected to the monitor, shine a bright light at an angle against the monitor screen to see if you can see an image.

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