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  • techtips
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    • Jan 2011
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    #1

    Gateway FPD2185W - what caps to use?

    Hey everybody, I have a FPD2185W that my friend gave for me to fix and I've seen the link Digikey.ca come up a few times to order replacement capacitors.

    Now I am far from technical when it goes with electronic components so I'm not sure what I have to order from them.

    The main power board as you guys know has 8 medium capacitors, and 2 big ones.

    All seem to be labelled as SAMXON, which has had a past history of bad caps.
    There are also 3 smaller capacitors on the display board.

    Now, the 8 on the power board, 7 feel bad by touching the top and noticing them curving, but I would replace the 8th one regardless.

    The two big main ones, they seem fine, nothing wrong with the tops. Would they still be worth replacing?

    The 3 on the video board seem okay, but one has me slightly concerned.


    here are the numbers on each of the series of caps.

    8 med caps = Samxon 470uf25v
    2 large caps = Samxon 68uf450v
    3 small caps = 470uf16v


    here are the pics of them






    Any ideas what kind caps do I need? what brand?


    i've uploaded a video also of the dissasembly, and will make another video of the repair and final outcome
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2FLZkBJfR4


    Thank you!
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    • retiredcaps
      Badcaps Legend
      • Apr 2010
      • 9271
      #2
      Re: Gateway FPD2185W - what caps to use?

      Originally posted by techtips
      Any ideas what kind caps do I need? what brand?
      1) Please use the manage attachments button to post your pictures so they are hosted here.

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      3) Follow PlainBill's instructions on how to order Panasonic FM or FR caps from digikey.

      https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...33&postcount=2

      Use Panasonic FC is FM or FR are not in stock.
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        • smason
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2010
          • 1652
          • Canada
          #3
          Re: Gateway FPD2185W - what caps to use?

          If you do a search you'll see a few people (including me) have repaired this model.
          Do ALL the caps on the power/inverter board, except the 2 450v ones.

          I would do the 3 on the main board as well. I did mine with Panasonic FM series and it's been working great for quite a while now.
          P.S. Where are you located?
          36 Monitors, 3 TVs, 4 Laptops, 1 motherboard, 1 Printer, 1 iMac, 2 hard drive docks and one IP Phone repaired so far....

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            • techtips
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              • Jan 2011
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              #4
              Re: Gateway FPD2185W - what caps to use?

              Originally posted by smason
              If you do a search you'll see a few people (including me) have repaired this model.
              Do ALL the caps on the power/inverter board, except the 2 450v ones.

              I would do the 3 on the main board as well. I did mine with Panasonic FM series and it's been working great for quite a while now.
              P.S. Where are you located?


              Thanks guys, will fix up the thread in a few moments.

              do you mean the 3 smaller ones? the 470uf16v???

              I'm in London Ontario

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                • smason
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 1652
                  • Canada
                  #5
                  Re: Gateway FPD2185W - what caps to use?

                  Originally posted by techtips
                  Thanks guys, will fix up the thread in a few moments.

                  do you mean the 3 smaller ones? the 470uf16v???

                  I'm in London Ontario
                  Yes those 3. Imho, Digikey.ca is your best bet, though shipping is $8.00 flat rate overnight, no other options. I usually order $60-$80 worth of stuff so $8.00 isn't bad, it's a bit much fot $7.00 worth of caps though...
                  36 Monitors, 3 TVs, 4 Laptops, 1 motherboard, 1 Printer, 1 iMac, 2 hard drive docks and one IP Phone repaired so far....

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                    • techtips
                      Member
                      • Jan 2011
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                      • Canada
                      #6
                      Re: Gateway FPD2185W - what caps to use?

                      Originally posted by smason
                      Yes those 3. Imho, Digikey.ca is your best bet, though shipping is $8.00 flat rate overnight, no other options. I usually order $60-$80 worth of stuff so $8.00 isn't bad, it's a bit much fot $7.00 worth of caps though...

                      I have a question, I've been told above not to replace the 2 larger 68uf450v capacitors, but while browsing this thread I came across this post:

                      https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...PD2185W&page=2

                      by bluto:

                      You will need the following caps for the powersupply:
                      (all listed are Panasonic FC) followed by Digikey part number

                      8x 470uf 25v P10275-ND
                      2x 220uf 25v P10271-ND
                      1x 47uf 25v P10267-ND
                      1x 10uf 50v P10316-ND

                      For the display board:

                      3x 470uf 16v P10247-ND


                      I'm just wondering if there is a reason he ordered a 47uf 25v and a 10uf 50v instead of the origional 68uf450v???


                      I followed PlainBill's guide and on digikey I was presented with information such as: Tolerance, lifetime @ temp, Operating temp, features, ripplecurrent etc...


                      would following the list that Bluto posted be good enough to order?

                      Sorry, I'm quite new with this

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                        • retiredcaps
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                          • Apr 2010
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                          #7
                          Re: Gateway FPD2185W - what caps to use?

                          Originally posted by techtips
                          I'm just wondering if there is a reason he ordered a 47uf 25v and a 10uf 50v instead of the origional 68uf450v???

                          would following the list that Bluto posted be good enough to order?
                          It is not uncommon for manufacturers to change board revisions and designs while keep the lcd same part number. That is why we always recommended listing and measuring your own board for cap replacements.

                          I followed PlainBill's guide and on digikey I was presented with information such as: Tolerance, lifetime @ temp, Operating temp, features, ripplecurrent etc...
                          For PlainBill's instructions, just pick Panasonic FM or FR caps. The list should then narrow down to 1 or 2 choices.
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                            • EGuevarae
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                              #8
                              Re: Gateway FPD2185W - what caps to use?

                              Originally posted by retiredcaps
                              For PlainBill's instructions, just pick Panasonic FM or FR caps.
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                                • pedro
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                                  • Dec 2009
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                                  #9
                                  Re: Gateway FPD2185W - what caps to use?

                                  Originally posted by techtips
                                  I have a question, I've been told above not to replace the 2 larger 68uf450v capacitors, but while browsing this thread I came across this post:

                                  https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...PD2185W&page=2

                                  by bluto:

                                  You will need the following caps for the powersupply:
                                  (all listed are Panasonic FC) followed by Digikey part number

                                  8x 470uf 25v P10275-ND
                                  2x 220uf 25v P10271-ND
                                  1x 47uf 25v P10267-ND
                                  1x 10uf 50v P10316-ND

                                  For the display board:

                                  3x 470uf 16v P10247-ND

                                  I'm just wondering if there is a reason he ordered a 47uf 25v and a 10uf 50v instead of the origional 68uf450v???
                                  Diferent roles entirely. Those 450v caps are for the rectified line input. Those 25v/50v units are elsewhere in the circuit. Apples, oranges.

                                  Don't EVER assume that someone else's list is exactly what you require. You need to do your own homework.
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                                    • Scenic
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                                      #10
                                      Re: Gateway FPD2185W - what caps to use?

                                      Originally posted by techtips
                                      All seem to be labelled as SAMXON, which has had a past history of bad caps.
                                      pretty much only the light green (usually) Samxon GF series.
                                      they drop like flies.. haven't had any problems with other series so far.
                                      they're pretty common in LG LCD monitors.. unfortunately :/

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                                        • techtips
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                                          #11
                                          Re: Gateway FPD2185W - what caps to use?

                                          Originally posted by pedro
                                          Don't EVER assume that someone else's list is exactly what you require. You need to do your own homework.
                                          I've done the homework as far as I can, I was just wondering why he was using two different specs for the main big caps then mine, but then again I didn't think of the manufacturer changing things around in certain revisions.

                                          I'll have to order the replacements for what I see inside of mine

                                          edit: just placed order for:

                                          P10247-ND CAP 470UF 16V ELECT FC RADIAL
                                          P10271-ND CAP 220UF 25V ELECT FC RADIAL
                                          P10275-ND CAP 470UF 25V ELECT FC RADIAL

                                          I've ordered a few extra incase any problems arise.

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                                            • pedro
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                                              • Dec 2009
                                              • 199
                                              • AUSTRALIA
                                              #12
                                              Re: Gateway FPD2185W - what caps to use?

                                              Originally posted by techtips
                                              I'll have to order the replacements for what I see inside of mine.
                                              Exactly.
                                              Friends don't let friends buy Samsung ....

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                                                • freelander
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                                                  • Apr 2009
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                                                  #13
                                                  Re: Gateway FPD2185W - what caps to use?

                                                  Originally posted by techtips
                                                  I have a question, I've been told above not to replace the 2 larger 68uf450v capacitors, but while browsing this thread I came across this post:

                                                  https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...PD2185W&page=2

                                                  by bluto:

                                                  You will need the following caps for the powersupply:
                                                  (all listed are Panasonic FC) followed by Digikey part number

                                                  8x 470uf 25v P10275-ND
                                                  2x 220uf 25v P10271-ND
                                                  1x 47uf 25v P10267-ND
                                                  1x 10uf 50v P10316-ND

                                                  For the display board:

                                                  3x 470uf 16v P10247-ND


                                                  I'm just wondering if there is a reason he ordered a 47uf 25v and a 10uf 50v instead of the origional 68uf450v???


                                                  I followed PlainBill's guide and on digikey I was presented with information such as: Tolerance, lifetime @ temp, Operating temp, features, ripplecurrent etc...


                                                  would following the list that Bluto posted be good enough to order?

                                                  Sorry, I'm quite new with this

                                                  I just took a look at your post and so I apologize if you have already ordered. The caps listed in Bluto's thread are correct. The qty 1-47uF25V and qty 1-10uF50V are the two little caps adjacent to the QTY-2 large 68uF450V caps. They serve completely different roles. If you are ordering from digikey anyway, I would suggest that you also order qty-2 AOD417 (replacement for AOD405) and qty-2 AOD484 (replacement for AOD408) mosfets which are often toast on this board. You will find these when you do a search in Digikey.
                                                  http://search.digikey.com/scripts/Dk...=785-1114-1-ND
                                                  http://search.digikey.com/scripts/Dk...=785-1106-1-ND

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