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  • stuartyp
    New Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 6

    #1

    complete newbie help please

    Hello can some you please help me i have no idea what im looking at but i would say that the cap is blowin

    can this cap be replaced be its self or is the whole lot going to have to be done
    as you can see there is quite a few of them its inside my phoenix gold power core its 20farad i have been told the whole thing is scrap many thanks stuarty
  • mockingbird
    Badcaps Legend
    • Dec 2008
    • 5484
    • -

    #2
    Re: complete newbie help please

    Wow!

    If I could guess I would say those are some low end Samxon variety.

    Send it to Topcat, it will keep him busy.

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    • kc8adu
      Super Moderator
      • Nov 2003
      • 8832
      • U.S.A!

      #3
      Re: complete newbie help please

      replace all with mcz.

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      • seanc
        Badcaps Legend
        • Nov 2008
        • 1319

        #4
        Re: complete newbie help please

        Looks like it's full of fakes to me.
        Rubbish sleeves, different vent styles.

        What does this device do?

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        • ratdude747
          Black Sheep
          • Nov 2008
          • 17136
          • USA

          #5
          Re: complete newbie help please

          fakes!

          if they used fakes, i question the quality of everything else inside. may or may not be worth fixing.
          sigpic

          (Insert witty quote here)

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          • AudioCraZ
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 147

            #6
            Re: complete newbie help please

            Wow... Look at the different vent caps... LOL

            You would figure that somebody making, or inspecting those would see a light bulb come on... Gotta love sub standard work.

            Post some pics of the rest of it, maybe somebody here can determine if it is worth salvaging or not.

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            • kikkoman
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Jul 2007
              • 691

              #7
              Re: complete newbie help please

              wait... am I the only one who sees a screw in that cap?
              "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken

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              • stj
                Great Sage 齊天大聖
                • Dec 2009
                • 30978
                • Albion

                #8
                Re: complete newbie help please

                exactly, the screw is too long and has hit the cap.
                get a shorter screw.

                and then do a poly-mod!


                why not just use big beer-can size caps with a copper bus-bar?

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                • stuartyp
                  New Member
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 6

                  #9
                  Re: complete newbie help please

                  I will put some more pictures up after work for you's. This is a 20farad power cap made be Phoenix gold for car audio.

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                  • c_hegge
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 5219
                    • Australia

                    #10
                    Re: complete newbie help please

                    WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

                    I've never seen so many caps on one device. That would take hours to re-cap. It looks like several are slightly bulging. I can't believe that the manufacturer would put one underneath a long screw, though!
                    I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

                    No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

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                    • stuartyp
                      New Member
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 6

                      #11
                      Re: complete newbie help please

                      I must check the case tonight I don't think there is a screw near the caps. The lid screws on around the edges with 4/5 mm screws. Now I don't know what the last owner has done but when I opened it this is what I found. He told me that it works perfectly. I know it hasn't dropped any volts as it's stayed the same for the last 5/6 months but I have never conected anything to it yet. How can I test this

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                      • stuartyp
                        New Member
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 6

                        #12
                        Re: complete newbie help please

                        I'm trying to get pictures of the outside of the cap to show there is no screws where the damage is done but can't find any on the net to copy I will do this when I get home
                        Last edited by stuartyp; 06-09-2010, 05:41 AM.

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                        • Scenic
                          o.O
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 2642
                          • Germany

                          #13
                          Re: complete newbie help please

                          would be interesting what those caps are (label shots).
                          well.. more like what they're supposed to be after the sloppy resleeving job

                          cap values and quantity would be needed for an estimate to replace all those junk caps.
                          (+ you need to find someone willing to spend a couple hours on recapping )

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                          • Scenic
                            o.O
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 2642
                            • Germany

                            #14
                            Re: complete newbie help please

                            lol!
                            http://phoenixphorum.com/powercore-2...ight=powercore

                            looks like PG used to be a reputable high end brand (early stuff has only Pannys and NCCs), got bankrupt and switched owners 2 times.. resulting in garbage like this..

                            those are 288 caps in total btw

                            the other powercore model is even more scary.. with leaking, cracked aerogel supercaps...

                            http://phoenixphorum.com/15f-powercore-doa-vt10201.html

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                            • kc8adu
                              Super Moderator
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 8832
                              • U.S.A!

                              #15
                              Re: complete newbie help please

                              sounds like its a first class pile of shit.
                              how thick is the copper on the board?
                              i would just use an optima redtop or an oddesy agm in its place.
                              avoid kinetic.pure junk.

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                              • seanc
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 1319

                                #16
                                Re: complete newbie help please

                                Originally posted by kc8adu
                                sounds like its a first class pile of shit.
                                Having read the threads Scenic linked, I totally agree.

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                                • stuartyp
                                  New Member
                                  • Jun 2010
                                  • 6

                                  #17
                                  Re: complete newbie help please

                                  Yea i think i will give it a miss now. I have 3 stinger svp70 batterys this was just an extra that i was going to use for a distro block and to make sure there was no voltage drop when the car is being jugded for sq

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                                  • kc8adu
                                    Super Moderator
                                    • Nov 2003
                                    • 8832
                                    • U.S.A!

                                    #18
                                    Re: complete newbie help please

                                    Originally posted by stuartyp
                                    Yea i think i will give it a miss now. I have 3 stinger svp70 batterys this was just an extra that i was going to use for a distro block and to make sure there was no voltage drop when the car is being jugded for sq
                                    your stingers are rebadged odessy's.

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                                    • stj
                                      Great Sage 齊天大聖
                                      • Dec 2009
                                      • 30978
                                      • Albion

                                      #19
                                      Re: complete newbie help please

                                      what's wrong with a few "beer-can's" with copper busbar instead of a fuckload of tiny caps?

                                      most mobile-audio is a scam these days anyway - numbers quoted are always peak-music-power not rms.

                                      i used to put 300w amps in large cars and a pair of stage 12" drivers.
                                      it could rock the street & flex the body panels far more than a lot of the junk i see now.

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                                      • ratdude747
                                        Black Sheep
                                        • Nov 2008
                                        • 17136
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: complete newbie help please

                                        if you junk it, send it to c hegge- he would love to throw all 288 of those caps in the fire as firecrackers!

                                        not really- he lives down under... shipping could be a real b!tch...

                                        not that he wouldn't dream... he could make one hell of a Judah's belt out of all of those!
                                        sigpic

                                        (Insert witty quote here)

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