Looking for a Service Manual for Traktor Kontrol S4 MK1

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  • Jolly62
    Member
    • Nov 2021
    • 13
    • Italy

    #1

    Looking for a Service Manual for Traktor Kontrol S4 MK1

    I got a NATIVE INSTRUMENTS Traktor Kontrol S4 MK1 with the common issue of a broken USB Type B port. After I replaced it the controller can't be recognized by the PC: I tried with several Windows and Mac PCs with the latest S4 drivers.
    All the correct voltage values are present so I suspect the issue could be the USB controller IC: CY7C68013A-100AXC with a 24LC64 eeprom.
    I looked around for the service manual with no luck so I wonder if someone could be so nice to share it.
    Thanks!
    Last edited by SMDFlea; 12-09-2021, 09:31 AM. Reason: Traktor Kontrol S4 MK1
  • stj
    Great Sage 齊天大聖
    • Dec 2009
    • 30906
    • Albion

    #2
    Re: Looking for a Service Manual

    CY7C68013A has no internal code,
    it will connect to usb using a VID & PID from a valid eeprom, or use a default one from itself.
    so if you check the device manager you should see it connect even if the driver is missing.
    if it connects then it may be a corrupt eeprom - although i cant see why.
    i suspect you have shorted d+ and d- or a brocken filter.

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    • Jolly62
      Member
      • Nov 2021
      • 13
      • Italy

      #3
      Re: Looking for a Service Manual

      Yep, it uses the separate 24LC64 eeprom.
      D+ and D- are not shorted according my meter and they are connected directly to the USB port.
      There are two fuses on the USB ground and +5v lines and they are good.
      Windows 7 gives "USB Device Not Recognized" with or without the S4 drivers.
      What filter should I check?
      Attached Files
      Last edited by Jolly62; 12-09-2021, 01:55 AM. Reason: add pics

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      • stj
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        • Dec 2009
        • 30906
        • Albion

        #4
        Re: Looking for a Service Manual

        if you go into the hardware, does it show a device and it's VID & PID numbers?

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        • Jolly62
          Member
          • Nov 2021
          • 13
          • Italy

          #5
          Re: Looking for a Service Manual

          Originally posted by stj
          if you go into the hardware, does it show a device and it's VID & PID numbers?
          No, in the attached pic you can see what I got.

          I have access to a digital scope (Siglent 1202X-E) if this could help.
          Attached Files

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          • Jolly62
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            • Nov 2021
            • 13
            • Italy

            #6
            Re: Looking for a Service Manual for Traktor Kontrol S4 MK1

            I found the attached guide so I checked the CLKOUT pin with a scope: I see a good signal for just a second then it reduces its amplitude a lot but I can still get the frequency that is the same as the crystal, 24 Mhz.

            From the guide I can read "Suspend mode happens if the FX2LP is not seeing the regular start of frame (SOF) bus signals from the host and WAKEUP# is high."

            I checked the WAKEUP pin and I see 2,89 V.
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            • Jolly62
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              • Nov 2021
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              • Italy

              #7
              Re: Looking for a Service Manual for Traktor Kontrol S4 MK1

              Just for the record, I got a new CY7C68013A from China and, after a not so easy replacement job, now the Traktor Kontrol S4 MK1 is working again.

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              • gtech83
                New Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 4
                • Canada

                #8
                Re: Looking for a Service Manual for Traktor Kontrol S4 MK1

                Any schematics of PCB1 or service manual discovered? troubleshooting a short after someones horrible usb repair, will chuck more hours at this

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                • stj
                  Great Sage 齊天大聖
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 30906
                  • Albion

                  #9
                  Re: Looking for a Service Manual for Traktor Kontrol S4 MK1

                  you can get a datasheet from cypress for the main chip - that shows the usb wiring

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                  • afminguela
                    New Member
                    • May 2023
                    • 2
                    • spain

                    #10
                    Re: Looking for a Service Manual for Traktor Kontrol S4 MK1

                    hi, if some one found the service manual please4 post. tnx

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