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  • giulio93
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Aug 2021
    • 258
    • Italy

    #1

    4056 Chip

    Hi everyone. I have this laser saber mobo that fails (the sword is totally death). I noticed a hole in the top right chip. I can read from the chip 4056 2043. I don't know the company who mades this chip ( i don't recognise the simbol). I have some questions.
    Is it the chip for the lipo charge?
    Can I replace with another 4056 chip? I found a lot of chip named in that way.
    I found a lot of chip 4056 but with a TP at the beginning of the name. Is the same chip?
    I need some programmer to reprogram it (like bios chip) or not?
    Thank you
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    Last edited by giulio93; 03-22-2022, 09:07 AM.
  • petehall347
    Badcaps Legend
    • Jan 2015
    • 4425
    • United Kingdom

    #2
    Re: 4056 Chip

    Q5 looks cracked

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    • giulio93
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Aug 2021
      • 258
      • Italy

      #3
      Re: 4056 Chip

      Originally posted by petehall347
      Q5 looks cracked
      the 4056 ?

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      • stj
        Great Sage 齊天大聖
        • Dec 2009
        • 30952
        • Albion

        #4
        Re: 4056 Chip

        what is "CH" ?? a speaker?

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        • giulio93
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Aug 2021
          • 258
          • Italy

          #5
          Re: 4056 Chip

          Originally posted by stj
          what is "CH" ?? a speaker?
          the white and yellow lines come to the control button.

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          • giulio93
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Aug 2021
            • 258
            • Italy

            #6
            Re: 4056 Chip

            Originally posted by petehall347
            Q5 looks cracked
            I see it know. This should be good to replace it
            https://www.ebay.it/itm/173122873712...wAAOSwjXNaa3-b
            My doubt stay for the 4056 chip.
            for exaple this is good?
            https://www.ebay.it/itm/363356997400

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            • stj
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              • Dec 2009
              • 30952
              • Albion

              #7
              Re: 4056 Chip

              it's not the charger is it?
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              • R_J
                Badcaps Legend
                • Jun 2012
                • 9532
                • Canada

                #8
                Re: 4056 Chip

                The tp4056 is a li-Ion charging ic, Here is a link to a charger module with the same brand ic https://www.amazon.com/Battery-Charg.../dp/B07PDLPNDX

                The prog (pin2) is just done with a resistor to set the charge current, no programing required. It looks like a bit of hot glue on Q5 and not cracked
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                Last edited by R_J; 03-22-2022, 05:53 PM.

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                • giulio93
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Aug 2021
                  • 258
                  • Italy

                  #9
                  Re: 4056 Chip

                  Originally posted by R_J
                  The tp4056 is a li-Ion charging ic, Here is a link to a charger module with the same brand ic https://www.amazon.com/Battery-Charg.../dp/B07PDLPNDX

                  The prog (pin2) is just done with a resistor to set the charge current, no programing required. It looks like a bit of hot glue on Q5 and not cracked
                  Ok, so the chip I linked it's ok?

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                  • giulio93
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Aug 2021
                    • 258
                    • Italy

                    #10
                    Re: 4056 Chip

                    Originally posted by R_J
                    The tp4056 is a li-Ion charging ic, Here is a link to a charger module with the same brand ic https://www.amazon.com/Battery-Charg.../dp/B07PDLPNDX

                    The prog (pin2) is just done with a resistor to set the charge current, no programing required. It looks like a bit of hot glue on Q5 and not cracked
                    I desolder the chip and this is what under. It is normal to have the connection between the Central bad and the top right and the third right?
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                    • stj
                      Great Sage 齊天大聖
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 30952
                      • Albion

                      #11
                      Re: 4056 Chip

                      that confirms it's not a tp4056 charging chip

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                      • giulio93
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • Aug 2021
                        • 258
                        • Italy

                        #12
                        Re: 4056 Chip

                        Originally posted by stj
                        that confirms it's not a tp4056 charging chip
                        Is there a chance that cleaning the pads has detached the green layer? That I did damage? Cause the chip in the pics you posted is exactly the same as mine. The only difference is the "1610"
                        Last edited by giulio93; 04-01-2022, 07:18 AM.

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                        • R_J
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Jun 2012
                          • 9532
                          • Canada

                          #13
                          Re: 4056 Chip

                          It is a ME4056SPG from Microne, here is the datasheet, see page 16 (Suitable for charge status indicator, which the application not need battery’s temperature detection)
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                          Last edited by R_J; 04-01-2022, 10:50 PM.

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                          • giulio93
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • Aug 2021
                            • 258
                            • Italy

                            #14
                            Re: 4056 Chip

                            Originally posted by R_J
                            It is a ME4056SPG from Microne, here is the datasheet, see page 16 (Suitable for charge status indicator, which the application not need battery’s temperature detection)
                            Is it a chip that manage the lipo charge ?
                            this one is good? https://it.aliexpress.com/item/40001...rch-mainSearch
                            Last edited by giulio93; 04-02-2022, 05:18 AM.

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                            • R_J
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Jun 2012
                              • 9532
                              • Canada

                              #15
                              Re: 4056 Chip

                              Yes, That is the same ic, the last number (1650) is a date code.

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                              • giulio93
                                Badcaps Veteran
                                • Aug 2021
                                • 258
                                • Italy

                                #16
                                Re: 4056 Chip

                                Ok guys I replaced both the IC and the other chip (a diode?). Now the laser saber is charged properly and the light works fine. But I have a problem. The saber doesn't emitt any sound but when it turned off. So the speaker works. It should be make sounds when you move it quickly. Any ideas?
                                thanks

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                                • stj
                                  Great Sage 齊天大聖
                                  • Dec 2009
                                  • 30952
                                  • Albion

                                  #17
                                  Re: 4056 Chip

                                  how does it sense movement?????

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                                  • giulio93
                                    Badcaps Veteran
                                    • Aug 2021
                                    • 258
                                    • Italy

                                    #18
                                    Re: 4056 Chip

                                    Originally posted by stj
                                    how does it sense movement?????
                                    I dont know. but before the fail, the saber sword emits sounds when you move it quickly and when you hit something with it. Do you need a motherboard back's pic?

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                                    • stj
                                      Great Sage 齊天大聖
                                      • Dec 2009
                                      • 30952
                                      • Albion

                                      #19
                                      Re: 4056 Chip

                                      probably need full pics of both sides and a list of whats on all the wires

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                                      • smic717394
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Jun 2017
                                        • 93
                                        • Spain

                                        #20
                                        Re: 4056 Chip

                                        Hi, I have a similar problem the saber was dear, so I removed the battery and give it a push with the bench power supply reconnect the battery and for a second the saber came on, the dead, so I removed the battery and tried again to charge it again, this time I think I put the battery the other way around, but nothing happened, so I removed the battery and try to charge it again , putting the battery the correct way, but nothing, I connected the adapter no light, nothing. I did noticed that if I give the battery a bit of charge, and connect it, the 4056 gets mad hot. nothing else beside the 4056 gets hot.

                                        I checked the datasheet of the ME4056SPG, its basically the same as the TC4056 or I'm missing something. Question, inverting the polarity should have like a diode or something to protect it? Its a removable battery. What else could get burn by inverting the polarity to check?

                                        Thank you.

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