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  • vinceroger69
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    • Mar 2012
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    #61
    Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own

    ok will do the brother in law was looking at them they also had toshiba and sharp but my guess there vestel too?

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    • tom66
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      • Apr 2011
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      #62
      Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own

      Originally posted by vinceroger69
      ok will do the brother in law was looking at them they also had toshiba and sharp but my guess there vestel too?
      Yea, anything sub about 40" now is Vestel/UMC. Only exception being LG & Samsung. And we all know about Panasonics now... and I'm not a big fan of Samsung... So yeah... It's a real crap shoot... you can't buy any decent TV these days.
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      • vinceroger69
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        #63
        Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own

        I know what your saying with the blaupunkt tvs they said made in germany on them he thought they was a good buy, but i said we will continue looking he hasnt much cash to spare as just started a new job so i didnt want him wasting it on a bad make so i will look for a lg as he wants something 1080 and about 40inch screen.

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        • tom66
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          • Apr 2011
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          #64
          Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own

          Originally posted by vinceroger69
          I know what your saying with the blaupunkt tvs they said made in germany on them he thought they was a good buy, but i said we will continue looking he hasnt much cash to spare as just started a new job so i didnt want him wasting it on a bad make so i will look for a lg as he wants something 1080 and about 40inch screen.
          Get a decent set from the classifieds, or eBay.
          You can get a Panny, just avoid anything ending in "A300" as that's Vestel. A400 etc isn't, and will be OK.

          Nobody makes TVs in germany except Harmon/Kardon (but they left the business.) Blaupunkt is a German brand, but they sold their name, like so many others...
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          • vinceroger69
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            #65
            Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own

            Thanks tom for the advice as always i will pass the info on to him.

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            • tom66
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              • Apr 2011
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              #66
              Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own

              I forgot... Sony ain't too bad, i'm just not big on the Samsung panels in their sets, but if it's a choice of Samsung panel vs Vestel chassis... samsung wins every time...
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              • vinceroger69
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                #67
                Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own

                Cheers tom.

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                • japlytic
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                  • Oct 2005
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                  #68
                  Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own

                  Originally posted by ben7
                  Ugh, YUCK.

                  Big "VESTEL" on the PSU, and elite caps. Also, looks like there is the typical vestel "multiple diode treatment".
                  Typically, Panasonic only uses their own electrolytic capacitors in their products (except for audio grade units) - not anymore!
                  My first choice in quality Japanese electrolytics is Nippon Chemi-Con, which has been in business since 1931... the quality of electronics is dependent on the quality of the electrolytics.

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                  • tom66
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                    • Apr 2011
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                    #69
                    Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own

                    Originally posted by japlytic
                    Typically, Panasonic only uses their own electrolytic capacitors in their products (except for audio grade units) - not anymore!
                    Most newer Panasonic sets used Rubycon. Nichicon and Chemicon. Very few of their own... very weird. Then they switched to Taicon, Samxon, etc. to get costs down.
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                    • Lapwing
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                      • Feb 2015
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                      #70
                      Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own

                      They are Rubycon in this TX42A400B ( Nov 2014 ).
                      Attached Files

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                      • tom66
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                        • Apr 2011
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                        #71
                        Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own

                        Originally posted by Lapwing
                        They are Rubycon in this TX42A400B ( Nov 2014 ).
                        Good! Looks like Panny is still trustworthy for A400 onwards. Thanks for the info.

                        Who makes the panel in this set?
                        Last edited by tom66; 04-04-2015, 07:04 AM.
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                        • ben7
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                          • Jan 2011
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                          #72
                          Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own

                          Originally posted by tom66
                          Most newer Panasonic sets used Rubycon. Nichicon and Chemicon. Very few of their own... very weird. Then they switched to Taicon, Samxon, etc. to get costs down.
                          Yeah, our 32" Panasonic has Rubycon and Nichicon (maybe some NCC, I don't remember that) inside. hah, funny that they don't use their own capacitors.

                          Originally posted by tom66
                          I forgot... Sony ain't too bad, i'm just not big on the Samsung panels in their sets, but if it's a choice of Samsung panel vs Vestel chassis... samsung wins every time...
                          Indeed!!!
                          Muh-soggy-knee

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                          • vinceroger69
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                            #73
                            Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own

                            Tom i suppose polaroid sets are vestle based too? just saw these in local asda store.

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                            • Lapwing
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                              • Feb 2015
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                              #74
                              Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own

                              Originally posted by tom66
                              Good! Looks like Panny is still trustworthy for A400 onwards. Thanks for the info.

                              Who makes the panel in this set?
                              Is this the Panel number...Wistron .
                              Attached Files

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                              • tom66
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                                • Apr 2011
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                                #75
                                Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own

                                Yeah, that's it. Yuck. They used to use LG panels. Now it's just cheapest from China. What can you do though, they all do it.
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                                • ReeceyBurger123
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                                  • May 2014
                                  • 7325
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                                  #76
                                  Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own

                                  Originally posted by vinceroger69
                                  Tom i suppose polaroid sets are vestle based too? just saw these in local asda store.
                                  They are either vestel or umc junks.
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                                  • tom66
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                                    #77
                                    Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own

                                    Originally posted by vinceroger69
                                    Tom i suppose polaroid sets are vestle based too? just saw these in local asda store.
                                    Yes, utter junk and TERRIBLE picture quality.

                                    So, today, your choices of TV are:
                                    Vestel (Toshiba)
                                    Vestel (Sharp)
                                    UMC (Technika/Blaupunkt)
                                    Vestel (Panasonic, some)
                                    TopVictorElectronics China (Bush/Alba/Technika/etc)
                                    Samsung
                                    LG
                                    ...



                                    Just look at the input plate on the back of the TV. Sure fire way to tell if it's a Vestel or not; they all look like this now:
                                    Last edited by tom66; 04-04-2015, 10:25 AM.
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                                    • ReeceyBurger123
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                                      • May 2014
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                                      #78
                                      Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own

                                      All vestel sets will have stickers like this and all say the same things:
                                      Attached Files
                                      Last edited by ReeceyBurger123; 04-04-2015, 10:41 AM.
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                                      • vinceroger69
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                                        • Mar 2012
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                                        #79
                                        Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own

                                        Cheers guys for the info i have passed all this on too the brother inlaw if he takes my advice is a diffrent matter.

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                                        • tom66
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                                          #80
                                          Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own

                                          From my experience most people seem to not like you telling them every TV you see now is made like junk and to buy used. Not sure why. Maybe they think I'm not serious...
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