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  • RJARRRPCGP
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    • Jul 2004
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    #21
    Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own

    Originally posted by tom66
    No, I never said anything like that. Panasonic plasmas have excellent reliability. Well, until they stopped making them, of course.
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    • tom66
      EVs Rule
      • Apr 2011
      • 32560
      • UK

      #22
      Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own

      The really cheap Panny and Sammy plasmas should be avoided, but the same is true for their LCDs. One good thing is that plasmas can usually be repaired if faulty. LCDs, nowadays half the time it seems like the panel is bad.

      And Panasonic sure have had problems on their models but this doesn't intrinsically make them bad.
      Last edited by tom66; 03-08-2015, 01:25 PM.
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      • ReeceyBurger123
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        • May 2014
        • 7325
        • Britain

        #23
        Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own

        Originally posted by tom66
        The really cheap Panny and Sammy plasmas should be avoided, but the same is true for their LCDs. One good thing is that plasmas can usually be repaired if faulty. LCDs, nowadays half the time it seems like the panel is bad.

        And Panasonic sure have had problems on their models but this doesn't intrinsically make them bad.
        All samsung plasmas should be avoided they dont last at all, pannys cheap ones are built well but some have issues...
        Last edited by ReeceyBurger123; 03-09-2015, 06:06 AM.
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        • tom66
          EVs Rule
          • Apr 2011
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          #24
          Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own

          I disagree. Samsung has problems with their bottom of the line models, but so did LG and Panasonic. High-end Samsung plasmas are reliable and have great picture quality. F8500/E8000/7000, etc. There's a reason I recommended them, until they stopped making them.
          Last edited by tom66; 03-09-2015, 06:19 AM.
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          • ReeceyBurger123
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            • May 2014
            • 7325
            • Britain

            #25
            Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own

            Originally posted by tom66
            I disagree. Samsung has problems with their bottom of the line models, but so did LG and Panasonic. High-end Samsung plasmas are reliable and have great picture quality. F8500/E8000/7000, etc. There's a reason I recommended them, until they stopped making them.
            Most of the plasmas I get in are samsungs and most aren't even that old I personally dont like them but they do have a good picture when they are working.
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            • stj
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              • Dec 2009
              • 30934
              • Albion

              #26
              Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own

              why all the plasma talk? vestel will never make plasma unless it's a small ball for a fraction of a second in the back of the tv somewhere!

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              • tom66
                EVs Rule
                • Apr 2011
                • 32560
                • UK

                #27
                Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own

                Vestel used to make plasmas for Hitachi. Well it used a Vestel main board and external chassis but the panel and PSU was Hitachi. And badged as Hitachi. Really odd, I guess Hitachi decided it was cheaper to have Vestel do the non-panel stuff.

                Plasma was pretty much niche after about 2009, shame it died out, but ah well I got a Kuro so I don't really care...
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                • ben7
                  Capaholic
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 4059
                  • USA

                  #28
                  Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own

                  Originally posted by tom66
                  Plasma was pretty much niche after about 2009, shame it died out.
                  Yeah, I love plasma over regular LCD.

                  I'm glad we got our 32" panasonic LCD TV many years ago. It has rubycon and nichicon caps in it!
                  No vestel "3A diodes in parallel", no crappy capacitors.
                  Muh-soggy-knee

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                  • Agent24
                    I see dead caps
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 4914
                    • New Zealand

                    #29
                    Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own

                    What a stupid move - but ironically it's the consumer's own fault for wanting continually bigger and cheaper TVs...

                    Is there anything decent left?
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                    • stj
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                      • Dec 2009
                      • 30934
                      • Albion

                      #30
                      Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own

                      Originally posted by Agent24
                      Is there anything decent left?
                      well japan got nuked, first physically and then financially.

                      so most tv's now are either Turkish or Chinese.

                      i suspect the chinese will start making better and slightly more expensive products soon.
                      i already see this with radio equipment.

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                      • Agent24
                        I see dead caps
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 4914
                        • New Zealand

                        #31
                        Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own

                        Guess I'll stick with my hilariously old Philips CRT then!
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                        • stj
                          Great Sage 齊天大聖
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 30934
                          • Albion

                          #32
                          Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own

                          i'm surprised it works if your serious.
                          the last philips widescreen tv's had a great picture, but the narrow-neck tubes all suffered from the guns shorting out.
                          same problem with the thompson sets - same tube.

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                          • Agent24
                            I see dead caps
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 4914
                            • New Zealand

                            #33
                            Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own

                            Who said anything about widescreen?
                            "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                            -David VanHorn

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                            • rhomanski
                              nowhere man
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 5157
                              • U S of A

                              #34
                              Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own

                              I'm still using a 35" Sanyo that's at least 10 years old. The cable company desperately wants me to convert so they don't have to maintain the analog equipment. I won't give them the satisfaction, yet anyway, they are constantly raising the bill.
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                              • Agent24
                                I see dead caps
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 4914
                                • New Zealand

                                #35
                                Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own

                                They'd probably run screaming if they saw mine, then.
                                It's not just analog, it's RF input only, and even then you better be broadcasting on a VHF band!
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                                • Lapwing
                                  Member
                                  • Feb 2015
                                  • 40
                                  • UK

                                  #36
                                  Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own

                                  Here are some pics of the PANASONIC VIERA TX-39A300B.
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                                  • ben7
                                    Capaholic
                                    • Jan 2011
                                    • 4059
                                    • USA

                                    #37
                                    Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own

                                    Originally posted by Lapwing
                                    Here are some pics of the PANASONIC VIERA TX-39A300B.
                                    Ugh, YUCK.

                                    Big "VESTEL" on the PSU, and elite caps. Also, looks like there is the typical vestel "multiple diode treatment".
                                    Muh-soggy-knee

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                                    • rievax_60
                                      Badcaps Veteran
                                      • May 2012
                                      • 897
                                      • australia

                                      #38
                                      Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own

                                      I thought that PFC is mandatory now. I can't see it.

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                                      • ben7
                                        Capaholic
                                        • Jan 2011
                                        • 4059
                                        • USA

                                        #39
                                        Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own

                                        Originally posted by rievax_60
                                        I thought that PFC is mandatory now. I can't see it.
                                        I don't really know, but maybe it doesn't need it to pass, because it only takes about 75W?
                                        Muh-soggy-knee

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                                        • Lapwing
                                          Member
                                          • Feb 2015
                                          • 40
                                          • UK

                                          #40
                                          Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own

                                          Underside of the two PANASONIC VIERA TX39A300B boards and the LED arrangement.
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