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  • HotHead
    Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 43

    #1

    Tube tech?

    Hi.
    Been searching for info on this old tube radio I have and so far only come accross vague articles or tutorials about this technologie and operatinn.
    The radio seems to work on AM only. It has six frequencies in all.
    16m, 19m, 25m, 31m, B and A.
    I beleive it has 6 or 7 tubes, 3 of which are of the glass kind and do light up nicely. The others are shorter and smaller and made of metal.
    Also ther are two tall, square tin boxes. Are these the filters?

    My question is can the radio receive AM and possibly be faulty on all other frequencies or would they all go out?

    And... any really good material on the operation and diagnosis of the radios?

    Here are a few pics.

    Check out the old capacitors, what a look into the past.
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    Last edited by HotHead; 03-28-2011, 03:51 PM. Reason: no pics
  • HotHead
    Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 43

    #2
    Re: Tube tech?

    I should of put the make and model.

    It's a Victor (1939) A-31 Globe Trotter

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    • japlytic
      Badcaps Legend
      • Oct 2005
      • 2086
      • Australia

      #3
      Re: Tube tech?

      According to http://www.classaxe.com/wireless/data/sets/ , this set can do the AM band.
      Replace all of the paper capacitors with polyester units (you can hide the new ones in the old ones if you want), reform the electrolytic capacitors and check the tolerance of the resistors.
      Check the oscillator, RF, IF and speaker transformers for continunity.
      When powering on for the first time, use a series lamp limiter. If it glows brightly, you may have a problem.
      The heaters in metal tubes are a bit hard to tell if they are working or not; the only way I can think of is to measure the resistance between the heaters, or if they draw heater current.
      My first choice in quality Japanese electrolytics is Nippon Chemi-Con, which has been in business since 1931... the quality of electronics is dependent on the quality of the electrolytics.

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      • kc8adu
        Super Moderator
        • Nov 2003
        • 8832
        • U.S.A!

        #4
        Re: Tube tech?

        dirty bandswitch?
        weak oscillator tube dropping out?
        this set needs a complete overhaul.all wax and lytic caps first off.then dig out the remaining bugs.

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        • bluto
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Oct 2007
          • 560

          #5
          Re: Tube tech?

          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This!!! Be sure to do the light bulb trick when you finally go to power it up. And as one site put it: "For the love of Marconi, don't plug it in yet!" You will probably want to replace the main filter caps (the old ones are big aluminum tubes filled with liquid). You may also want to replace all of the wax capacitors and probably some of the resistors too.

          Once you have done this try the light bulb inline with the power cord. If all is well, it will glow dimly or flicker a little. Once that is OK you could move on to using a variac to bring up the voltage slowly while carefully looking for hot components and magic smoke. If all goes well, keep raising the voltage and hopefully the radio will start to "sing".

          Some links:
          http://antiqueradio.org/begin.htm
          http://www.nostalgiaair.org/ (schematics)
          http://antiqueradios.com/ (forums and info)

          It's not too hard, I restored an old Zenith model 807 a few years ago with no previous antique radio experience. It had been languishing in a moldy basement for years. I replaced the speaker, all the caps and resistors, as well as the power cord. No tubes needed replacing. I also gave it a good cleaning and some minor restoration to the cabinet and now it is almost as good as new! And it plays great too! (although there is not much to worth listening to on AM and SW these days) But it is pretty neat to hear it play (in today's world of 50 inch plasmas and 500 channels of satellite TV) and think about how it was once cutting edge for technology and entertainment.

          Some before and after pics:
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          • Scenic
            o.O
            • Sep 2007
            • 2642
            • Germany

            #6
            Re: Tube tech?

            cool youtube channel for old radios and TVs
            http://www.youtube.com/user/bandersentv#g/u

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            • skystormfarms
              Banned
              • Mar 2011
              • 160

              #7
              Re: Tube tech?

              ware do u get those tubes

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