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  • harp
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    Re: Is it possible bridging tiny broken trace

    It can be done (about 0.1mm line with 0.1mm gap) on the condition that attention is paid to the sequence of procedures.
    This video is repair of flex cable but the principes is the same with one on PCB board.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PO6b5VD7bbg
    Precise repair of damaged lines on flat flex ribbon cable

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  • harp
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    You have a multiple broken track on near field. If you are not making it worse till now, you may try to follow each side of track and solder fine regular jumper wire on legs of ending components. I see a lot of vias, so it is posible that this track go around the board.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F_Mi-SwZyxY

    Yes this will be look messy but you can skip micro work on micro space, and macro trouble.
    For coating and fixing small area use hard rossin dilueted on ipa and few drop of glicerin, this is sticky but when ipa disapeer, it solid and firm. On jumper wire apply drop of hot glue every inch...
    Last edited by harp; 12-16-2022, 09:39 AM.

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  • petehall347
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    you should do the cleaning back by hand or the heat and the revolving motion will lift the copper and cause more problems .. follow the traces back and place jumpers if possible then deal with what's left . and going to different places on adjacent tracks minimising short circuit issues . this is my hindsight after making it very hard work for myself ..good luck and hope you sort it .. oh and magnification and clear view is what's needed here . tin the wire and the track first .

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  • sam_sam_sam
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    Or use scotch brite pad on a dermal tool at low speed should work but do over due the amount of pressure that you apply to the disk for best results

    You can also use wire strains that are very fine I done before but I caution you to take your time doing this it is very difficult and time consuming to do this just be patient doing this project for best results

    Being that the traces are so very close to each other this is going to be very difficult to do
    Last edited by sam_sam_sam; 12-09-2022, 08:18 PM.

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  • stj
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    i wouldnt, that will go through copper so fast!!!!
    a fibreglass brush would be better

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  • CapLeaker
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    Yeah, the only thing this tool is good for is to clean up the damaged area. Well you can try it out on the already damaged spot and practice.

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  • diif
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    That's not the tool I would use but if you think you can remove the mask and leave the copper underneath then go for it. Some wet and dry sand paper would be a bit more delicate.

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  • chth96
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    Originally posted by diif View Post
    The tip you have is fine. Your priority is to grind away the solder mask, then tin the traces then bridge the gap. UV mask is after the work is done and tested.
    I just have ordered 0.02mm wire and Lead-Free Welding Fluxes, 0.15mm Fingerprint Tweezers from aliexpress.
    and I have grinder which I purchased a few month ago.
    Although Its size is very big comparing with the size of broken trace, It can be control rotating speed from the slowest to the fastest.
    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003683079012.html

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  • diif
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    The tip you have is fine. Your priority is to grind away the solder mask, then tin the traces then bridge the gap. UV mask is after the work is done and tested.

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  • chth96
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    Re: Is it possible bridging tiny broken trace

    Thank you very much for all of reply.
    It seems that 0.15mm soldering tip(T12 ILS) is the most finest tip I have.
    So I think to purchase fine tip is the priority than to purchase UV solder mask.
    I browse through aliexpress and found below link of 0.1mm soldering tip.
    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002701753416.html
    Is it possible to use this 900M-T-BI tip for any T12 compatible soldering station?

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  • stj
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    you can get UV flashlights on aliexpress for as little as $3
    they use an 18650 and are very handy

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  • CapLeaker
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    also acrylic conformal coating (MG chemicals) will work. Stinks bad like nail polish and you gotta wait for it to dry. The other UV solder mask doesn't stink and it's much faster. Yes you need some sort of a UV light, there is really not getting around any of that.

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  • diif
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    You could use a dab of nail polish.

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  • chth96
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    Originally posted by CapLeaker View Post
    I'd be putting something like this : https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005...d=cymzUU5M2RcF
    on these little wires, so they stay put after you finished the re wiring job. The last thing you want is one of the little wires to fall off for some reason. This UV mask is like liquid, until you hit it with a UV lamp. Once you hit it with a UV lamp it becomes solid and glues the little wires in place and protects them. Up to you to use it or not. If something goes over my desk with a small trace repair, I use some sort of UV curing mask to keep the little wires in place. Also you wouldn't want all these little wires to short out against each other, if the wires are bare copper.
    Thank you very much for reply.
    It seems that UV curing solder mask has significant benefit if wire is bare copper or I want to clamp wire on PCB.
    But I don't have any UV lamp, Is it possible to make UV curing solder mask soild with staying in the sunshine for an hour?

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  • CapLeaker
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    I'd be putting something like this : https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005...d=cymzUU5M2RcF
    on these little wires, so they stay put after you finished the re wiring job. The last thing you want is one of the little wires to fall off for some reason. This UV mask is like liquid, until you hit it with a UV lamp. Once you hit it with a UV lamp it becomes solid and glues the little wires in place and protects them. Up to you to use it or not. If something goes over my desk with a small trace repair, I use some sort of UV curing mask to keep the little wires in place. Also you wouldn't want all these little wires to short out against each other, if the wires are bare copper.

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  • chth96
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    Originally posted by CapLeaker View Post
    After the wiring job I’d put UV curing solder mask on it. But heck… that’s a bummer. Not impossible, but I suggest you get a fine tip for the soldering iron.
    Thank you very much for reply.But What is UV curing solder mask used for?
    Currently I don't have any UV curing solder mask.
    If I try microsoldering like bridging tiny broken trace without UV curing solder mask, would it be serious problem?
    Last edited by chth96; 12-04-2022, 10:15 PM.

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  • CapLeaker
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    After the wiring job I’d put UV curing solder mask on it. But heck… that’s a bummer. Not impossible, but I suggest you get a fine tip for the soldering iron.

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  • vinceroger69
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    some people use this flux from ali express and get good results using it https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3228...d=aeMiejKG9aPv

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  • chth96
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    Originally posted by diif View Post
    That's quite a few traces there.
    You'll need to remove the solder mask in that area so you have clean copper to solder to and to get a better look at the damage. There are cheap grinding pens available, they are better than scraping at the board with something sharp. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004662172521.html

    You want to flux the area then tin the traces with solder, then use either fine wire or the PCB trace repair kits. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003152519345.html

    Then solder mask on top when you know it's good.
    Thank you very much for your reply.
    Is it good enough to purchase any flux from aliexpress?
    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004658782043.html

    I only has tweezer and small size screw driver for picking up or cutting wire
    And broken trace seems too small by comparison with size of both tweezer and screw driver currently I have ..

    Is there any toolkits for picking up or cutting 0.1mm diameter wire?
    Last edited by chth96; 12-04-2022, 06:22 AM.

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  • diif
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    Re: Is it possible bridging tiny broken trace

    That's quite a few traces there.
    You'll need to remove the solder mask in that area so you have clean copper to solder to and to get a better look at the damage. There are cheap grinding pens available, they are better than scraping at the board with something sharp. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004662172521.html

    You want to flux the area then tin the traces with solder, then use either fine wire or the PCB trace repair kits. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003152519345.html

    Then solder mask on top when you know it's good.

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