Hisense H55A6500UK backlight, sound but no display

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  • notallbad
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    • Oct 2012
    • 1190
    • UK

    #1

    Hisense H55A6500UK backlight, sound but no display

    Tv turns on, backlights on but no picture, sound is present. Responds to remote, mute, voll up/down etc..
    On initial power up the red led comes on solid, then switch on red led blinks 17 times. After initial power on from stby to on theres just 4 red blinks. (just for info really).

    PS: RSAG7.820.7748/ROH
    Main : RSAG7.820.7970/ROH
    T-con : RSAG7.820.7932/ROH
    Panel : HD550S3U51-TA

    PSU voltages:
    XP701
    Stby-----On
    110------125.7
    0----------0
    110------125.7
    0----------0

    XP805
    ---------Stby---------On
    gnd------0----------0
    ana------0----------0
    vamp---18.4-----18.6
    vamp---18.4-----18.6
    gnd------0----------0
    stb-------0.05-----2.69
    12v------9----------12
    12v------9----------12

    sw-------0.03------4.69
    bri-------0.03------1.53
    gnd-----0-----------0
    gnd-----0-----------0
    nc-------0-----------0
    gnd-----0-----------0
    12v-----9-----------12
    gnd-----0------------0

    So, apart from the ana pin I guess these all look good?

    Theres no obvious damage on either side of any of the boards and appear to be getting various voltages that look good around the main board and getting 12v, 1.2v & 1.8v on the T-con.

    Theres a very, very faint 4 inch wide vertical bar around the middle of the screen which lines up with one of the tabs so its possible even if the tv can be fixed there will be bigger issues ahead, tab bond fault!
    Attached Files
    Last edited by notallbad; 05-06-2020, 05:53 AM.
  • dick_barton
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    • Aug 2015
    • 6642
    • Wales

    #2
    Re: Hisense H55A6500UK backlight, sound but no display

    Are you saying the 12V supply is currently 9.12V
    Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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    • notallbad
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      • Oct 2012
      • 1190
      • UK

      #3
      Re: Hisense H55A6500UK backlight, sound but no display

      Sorry. the spacing has come out wrong in the post.
      Edited post to separate them out.
      The 12v lines are 9v in stby and 12v when powered on.
      Last edited by notallbad; 05-06-2020, 05:47 AM.

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      • Diah
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        • Feb 2013
        • 6363
        • Germany

        #4
        Re: Hisense H55A6500UK backlight, sound but no display

        try to downgrade the firmware before you go on yours thought.

        and check before all if you have VCC 12V on the T-CON
        Last edited by Diah; 05-06-2020, 05:45 AM.

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        • dick_barton
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          • Aug 2015
          • 6642
          • Wales

          #5
          Re: Hisense H55A6500UK backlight, sound but no display

          I notice the board says 12V @ 3A, 16V @1.5A and 160V @ 450mA
          Do you have the 16V and 160V supplies?

          Edit
          Just noticed that it looks like the 16V is the 18V supply
          Last edited by dick_barton; 05-06-2020, 05:52 AM.
          Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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          • notallbad
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            • Oct 2012
            • 1190
            • UK

            #6
            Re: Hisense H55A6500UK backlight, sound but no display

            Theres 18v on VAmp on XP805 connector and 125v for the backlights on connector XP701.

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            • dick_barton
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              • Aug 2015
              • 6642
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              #7
              Re: Hisense H55A6500UK backlight, sound but no display

              The backlight voltage appears low as per what's written on the psu.
              Can you clearly see the backlights are up nice and bright from the back of the panel?

              I have seen that you say the backlights and sound working but no picture.
              Last edited by dick_barton; 05-06-2020, 06:18 AM.
              Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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              • notallbad
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                • Oct 2012
                • 1190
                • UK

                #8
                Re: Hisense H55A6500UK backlight, sound but no display

                Yh, the backlights are definately on and bright.

                Disconnecting the T-con ribbons to the panel boards one at a time makes no difference, still no picture/menu.
                Last edited by notallbad; 05-06-2020, 06:31 AM.

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                • nomoresonys
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                  • Jan 2013
                  • 12151
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                  #9
                  Re: Hisense H55A6500UK backlight, sound but no display

                  See if there's voltage on each side of tcon fuse, pos. probe on each side, neg. probe on chassis ground.

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                  • notallbad
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                    • Oct 2012
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                    #10
                    Re: Hisense H55A6500UK backlight, sound but no display

                    Yh 12v on both sides of fuse and 1.8v on vcc1.8 and 1.2v on FRC_1.2V1.

                    Appears to be a short across VD8 - MR340, even with one side lifted the short exists between the pads, not the diode.
                    Short across caps C238, C239, C177 and C176.
                    Last edited by notallbad; 05-06-2020, 07:21 AM.

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                    • dick_barton
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                      • Aug 2015
                      • 6642
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                      #11
                      Re: Hisense H55A6500UK backlight, sound but no display

                      Is the MR340 the correct number?
                      https://tinyurl.com/y788q8ep and it appears to be a mosfet
                      Where is it on the tcon? top or bottom?
                      Last edited by dick_barton; 05-06-2020, 07:42 AM.
                      Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                      • nomoresonys
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                        #12
                        Re: Hisense H55A6500UK backlight, sound but no display

                        Are those shorts there with nothing connected to tcon?

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                        • notallbad
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                          • Oct 2012
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                          #13
                          Re: Hisense H55A6500UK backlight, sound but no display

                          M8R340 or MBR340, top right. DMM on diode setting get a reading of 120 one way only.
                          On the pcb pads get a short.
                          Sorry, picture upside down.

                          T-con disconnected from main and panel.
                          Attached Files
                          Last edited by notallbad; 05-06-2020, 08:13 AM.

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                          • nomoresonys
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                            #14
                            Re: Hisense H55A6500UK backlight, sound but no display

                            That looks like a match, not sure on the postage, it just gave the rates to the U.S. when I clicked it: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LVDS-TCON...EAAOSwgZ5cXu1e
                            Last edited by nomoresonys; 05-06-2020, 08:30 AM.

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                            • notallbad
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                              • Oct 2012
                              • 1190
                              • UK

                              #15
                              Re: Hisense H55A6500UK backlight, sound but no display

                              Yh, I think buying a replacement T-con might be the best way to go!

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                              • neilc6
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                                • Nov 2015
                                • 1550
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                                #16
                                Re: Hisense H55A6500UK backlight, sound but no display

                                Power up the tv with the tcon to panel ribbons connected one side at a time to confirm you dont have a panel fault.

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                                • notallbad
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                                  • Oct 2012
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                                  #17
                                  Re: Hisense H55A6500UK backlight, sound but no display

                                  yh done that, no difference!

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                                  • dick_barton
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                                    • Aug 2015
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                                    #18
                                    Re: Hisense H55A6500UK backlight, sound but no display

                                    Short across caps C238, C239, C177 and C176.
                                    It is possible that one of these caps are responsible for the short circuit.
                                    Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                                    • nomoresonys
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                                      #19
                                      Re: Hisense H55A6500UK backlight, sound but no display

                                      Originally posted by dick_barton
                                      it is possible that one of these caps are responsible for the short circuit.
                                      +10

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                                      • notallbad
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                                        • Oct 2012
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                                        #20
                                        Re: Hisense H55A6500UK backlight, sound but no display

                                        So, it would seem C177 was shorted.
                                        Removed C177 and the cap is shorted.
                                        The short across the other caps and the M8R340 has gone.
                                        Also on the reverse side, VD5 showed as a short, but also now gone.

                                        But what to replace it with? Its tied to the 12v rail. 0.1uf???

                                        Dare I try it without this cap attached?
                                        Last edited by notallbad; 05-06-2020, 12:16 PM.

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