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  • Technik92
    Member
    • Dec 2016
    • 16
    • Polska

    #1

    Harman Kardon AVR 370

    Hello, I have a problem with the harman kardon AVR 370 does not start after turning on, it immediately turns off, I borrowed the power supply from a colleague and its power supply works, so the reason will be in my power supply.
    Has anyone had a problem with this power supply or has it repaired and knows which part could get stuck in it?
  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #2
    Re: Harman Kardon AVR 370

    Did you look for service manual?
    https://elektrotanya.com/showresult?...oria=&kat2=all
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
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    TV Factory reset codes listing:
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    • budm
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2010
      • 40746
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Harman Kardon AVR 370

      BTW, you also need to attach some pictures for us to look at so we can see what we are dealing with.
      Never stop learning
      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

      Inverter testing using old CFL:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

      TV Factory reset codes listing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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      • bluebear
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 90

        #4
        Re: Harman Kardon AVR 370

        Depends what you mean by "immediately turns off".

        Check capacitor C983 and C939, they seem to fail fairly regular. Without any more specific details its hard to say.
        Last edited by bluebear; 04-10-2020, 01:39 PM.

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        • Technik92
          Member
          • Dec 2016
          • 16
          • Polska

          #5
          Re: Harman Kardon AVR 370

          after disconnecting the -50 V and + 50 V bus connector, the receiver starts without problems. Below are links to movies where I show the problem and 2 movie on which the receiver works after disconnecting the 50v plug.


          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyDg...ature=youtu.be



          https://youtu.be/6l0qi-I6M2k
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          Last edited by Technik92; 04-10-2020, 04:10 PM.

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          • R_J
            Badcaps Legend
            • Jun 2012
            • 9535
            • Canada

            #6
            Re: Harman Kardon AVR 370

            With CN20 disconnected from the amp board, what voltage do you measure on CN20 on the power supply? There are two seperate smps's for the +/- 50v, they are basically identical except for where the -50 takes its output. so it should be easy to check components between them.
            Last edited by R_J; 04-10-2020, 07:58 PM.

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            • Technik92
              Member
              • Dec 2016
              • 16
              • Polska

              #7
              Re: Harman Kardon AVR 370

              Black and red = 54V
              Black and white = 54V
              White red = 107V



              The power supply is functional because I have a spare one.

              When I pull this tape, it runs without promblem
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              Last edited by Technik92; 04-11-2020, 03:25 AM.

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              • R_J
                Badcaps Legend
                • Jun 2012
                • 9535
                • Canada

                #8
                Re: Harman Kardon AVR 370

                Originally posted by Technik92
                Black and red = 54V
                Black and white = 54V
                White red = 107V



                The power supply is functional because I have a spare one.

                When I pull this tape, it runs without promblem
                You said the problem is in your power supply and NOW you say it is Functional? which is it?
                I borrowed the power supply from a colleague and its power supply works, so the reason will be in my power supply.
                When you tried your friends power supply in YOUR amp, did you have audio from ALL speaker outputs?
                Last edited by R_J; 04-11-2020, 12:01 PM. Reason: Something is causing double posts sometimes

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                • Technik92
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                  • Dec 2016
                  • 16
                  • Polska

                  #9
                  Re: Harman Kardon AVR 370

                  Sorry, I checked the power supply recently because I forgot to connect 50v.

                  Tomorrow I will check if the sound is.

                  I will look for the problem of this short circuit because when I connect the tape, it is short circuit immediately

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                  • Technik92
                    Member
                    • Dec 2016
                    • 16
                    • Polska

                    #10
                    Re: Harman Kardon AVR 370

                    I checked and no sound.

                    I think I have already found the reason for the short circuit at the SURR LEFT speaker output after turning on the power was 54v and dropped to 27v as in the photo after desoldering 2 ends B1647 and D2560 the amplifier works and I think I will order these 2 parts burned tomorrow
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                    • R_J
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 9535
                      • Canada

                      #11
                      Re: Harman Kardon AVR 370

                      Make sure to check the dual emitter resistors and also the 3.3Ω base resistors. If the base resistors are open, you would need to check the driver transistors also. You should also check R821 & R822 (18Ω) If you are lucky only the outputs are bad

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                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Harman Kardon AVR 370

                        Originally posted by r_j
                        make sure to check the dual emitter resistors and also the 3.3Ω base resistors. If the base resistors are open, you would need to check the driver transistors also. You should also check r821 & r822 (18Ω) if you are lucky only the outputs are bad
                        +1
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        • Technik92
                          Member
                          • Dec 2016
                          • 16
                          • Polska

                          #13
                          Re: Harman Kardon AVR 370

                          Ok, I'll check it tomorrow

                          Through these 54v I have damaged the central speaker CEN-TS60 and the loudspeaker already has someone else suggest what could have fallen in the inverter?


                          Such parts are there:
                          3.6uf 100v
                          2x 4.7uf 100v
                          26uf 100v
                          200uf 100v

                          10w40ohm
                          10w2ohm
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                          • Technik92
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                            • Dec 2016
                            • 16
                            • Polska

                            #14
                            Re: Harman Kardon AVR 370

                            Originally posted by R_J
                            Make sure to check the dual emitter resistors and also the 3.3Ω base resistors. If the base resistors are open, you would need to check the driver transistors also. You should also check R821 & R822 (18Ω) If you are lucky only the outputs are bad

                            Hello, I replaced these damaged parts now starts and after 10s turns off by itself

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                            • R_J
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Jun 2012
                              • 9535
                              • Canada

                              #15
                              Re: Harman Kardon AVR 370

                              What damaged parts did you replace? Did you just replace the 2 transistors?
                              Check the voltage on pin 1 &2 of CN66? This is connected to the emittter resistors, check this voltage before the amp shuts down.

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                              • Technik92
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                                • Dec 2016
                                • 16
                                • Polska

                                #16
                                Re: Harman Kardon AVR 370

                                So I replaced 2 transistors B1647 and D2560 + R817 3.3Ω.
                                Voltage on pin 1 & 2 CN66 = 17,2V

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                                • R_J
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Jun 2012
                                  • 9535
                                  • Canada

                                  #17
                                  Re: Harman Kardon AVR 370

                                  That voltage on CN66 should be close to 0 volts.
                                  If R817 was damaged (open) then you need to check all the driver transistors and resistors. Check Q856,Q876,Q886,R786,R776 and all the the other transistors and resistors in that part of the circuit. You can compare values with a working channel.

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                                  • Technik92
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                                    • Dec 2016
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                                    #18
                                    Re: Harman Kardon AVR 370

                                    ok Q856 is broken tomorrow I will buy these hi the rest seem ok

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                                    • Technik92
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                                      • Dec 2016
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                                      #19
                                      Re: Harman Kardon AVR 370

                                      You can recommend a replacement because I can't buy the same model anywhere HVTKTD600KGR

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                                      • Technik92
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                                        • Dec 2016
                                        • 16
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                                        #20
                                        Re: Harman Kardon AVR 370

                                        ok i found and ordered 2SD600K Y TO126 NPN 100V 1A 130MHz

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