Acbel 550w price drop! (the famous one)

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  • ratdude747
    Black Sheep
    • Nov 2008
    • 17136
    • USA

    #21
    Re: Acbel 550w price drop! (the famous one)

    OST and the like. oddball samxon-only sizes. still not bad... oddball samxons work... i never had a noise issue with mine (in my dad's box now)
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    • PCBONEZ
      Grumpy Old Fart
      • Aug 2005
      • 10661
      • USA

      #22
      Re: Acbel 550w price drop! (the famous one)

      Like I said before:
      https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...6&postcount=16
      Mann-Made Global Warming.
      - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

      -
      Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

      - Dr Seuss
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      • PCBONEZ
        Grumpy Old Fart
        • Aug 2005
        • 10661
        • USA

        #23
        Re: Acbel 550w price drop! (the famous one)

        Originally posted by goodpsusearch
        What caps do they use?
        Read post #6 in this thread.
        Mann-Made Global Warming.
        - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

        -
        Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

        - Dr Seuss
        -
        You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
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        • PCBONEZ
          Grumpy Old Fart
          • Aug 2005
          • 10661
          • USA

          #24
          Re: Acbel 550w price drop! (the famous one)

          $15 + shipping [~$23 to my zip.]

          Plus it needs some of the bastard 10mm caps at around $1 /@ so around another $15-$20 for caps. [w/shipping].

          You are looking at $40-$50 for a PSU that you have to recap and it's only ~70% efficient after you've done all the work.

          .
          Mann-Made Global Warming.
          - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

          -
          Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

          - Dr Seuss
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          • ratdude747
            Black Sheep
            • Nov 2008
            • 17136
            • USA

            #25
            Re: Acbel 550w price drop! (the famous one)

            for me, shipping is only $6.

            the guts are built well... it may not be as efficient, but after a recap, it is a tank. better quality. like a KIA vs a chevy...
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            • acstech
              GrumpyModerator
              • Jul 2007
              • 1432
              • USA

              #26
              Re: Acbel 550w price drop! (the famous one)

              I still haven't seen any of 'em fail, OST and all. I'm not disagreeing that OST is a bad cap. We all know that it is. I do think, though, that this particular unit has enough cooling that they work ok.

              I really don't care if it's only 70% efficient. I'm not using that much power anyway. Sitting here idling the computer, I'd be surprised if it's even using 100w. If you're concerned about that, switch one of your light bulbs in your house to something smaller and you've offset it. You might switch two light bulbs if you run folding in the background.
              A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.

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              • PCBONEZ
                Grumpy Old Fart
                • Aug 2005
                • 10661
                • USA

                #27
                Re: Acbel 550w price drop! (the famous one)

                Originally posted by ratdude747
                for me, shipping is only $6.
                There is a quality difference between a KIA and a Chevy?
                I don't see that either.

                You can hoot n holler all you want.
                Those simply are not a good deal when you can get an 80+ unit for the same or less. [Even if you have to recap it.]
                .
                Mann-Made Global Warming.
                - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

                -
                Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

                - Dr Seuss
                -
                You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
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                • PCBONEZ
                  Grumpy Old Fart
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 10661
                  • USA

                  #28
                  Re: Acbel 550w price drop! (the famous one)

                  Originally posted by acstech
                  I still haven't seen any of 'em fail, OST and all. I'm not disagreeing that OST is a bad cap. We all know that it is. I do think, though, that this particular unit has enough cooling that they work ok.

                  I really don't care if it's only 70% efficient. I'm not using that much power anyway. Sitting here idling the computer, I'd be surprised if it's even using 100w. If you're concerned about that, switch one of your light bulbs in your house to something smaller and you've offset it. You might switch two light bulbs if you run folding in the background.
                  The 70% efficient would be at it's peak which on an old design like that would be at about 425 watts.
                  At 100 watts it's probably like 55% so you are using over 180 watts to get that 100.
                  Great plan if you need a space heater.

                  The newer designs have a flatter curve so even at 100 watts you are still pretty close to 80%.

                  All in all, it's not a smart buy.

                  I said my peace.
                  - You bandwagon boys do what you want.
                  .
                  Mann-Made Global Warming.
                  - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

                  -
                  Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

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                  -
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                  • ratdude747
                    Black Sheep
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 17136
                    • USA

                    #29
                    Re: Acbel 550w price drop! (the famous one)

                    Originally posted by PCBONEZ
                    There is a quality difference between a KIA and a Chevy?
                    I don't see that either.

                    You can hoot n holler all you want.
                    Those simply are not a good deal when you can get an 80+ unit for the same or less. [Even if you have to recap it.]
                    .
                    and where can i get such a psu for $15?
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                    • PCBONEZ
                      Grumpy Old Fart
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 10661
                      • USA

                      #30
                      Re: Acbel 550w price drop! (the famous one)

                      Why would you ask that when the one you are looking at will actually cost like $40+ [at your zip] by the time you are done?

                      Besides, that was already covered.

                      It's not a smart buy, but you go right ahead.
                      .
                      Mann-Made Global Warming.
                      - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

                      -
                      Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

                      - Dr Seuss
                      -
                      You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
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                      • Agent24
                        I see dead caps
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 4953
                        • New Zealand

                        #31
                        Re: Acbel 550w price drop! (the famous one)

                        Perhaps some 2nd hand but decent built PSUs would be better, just put some new capacitors in those.. something like the old Enermax FMA series, good for a P3 or something, probably not anything new, but hey...
                        "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                        -David VanHorn

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                        • everell
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 1514
                          • USA

                          #32
                          Re: Acbel 550w price drop! (the famous one)

                          Another good power supply is the Bestec ATX-250 12E. Of course you have to recap it AND modify the 5vsb circuit. But once that is done, you have a great power supply, and I think it is a bit more efficient than the AcBel.
                          Old proverb say.........If you shoot at nothing, you will hit nothing (George Henry 10-14-11)

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                          • acstech
                            GrumpyModerator
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 1432
                            • USA

                            #33
                            Re: Acbel 550w price drop! (the famous one)

                            At 100 watts it's probably like 55% so you are using over 180 watts to get that 100.
                            As was covered before, it's minimum 70% efficient. 55% is just pulling numbers out of your ass.

                            Again, the datasheet says equal to or greater than 70%.

                            http://www.datasheetarchive.com/API4FS06-datasheet.html
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                            • PCBONEZ
                              Grumpy Old Fart
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 10661
                              • USA

                              #34
                              Re: Acbel 550w price drop! (the famous one)

                              Originally posted by acstech
                              Again, the datasheet says equal to or greater than 70%.

                              http://www.datasheetarchive.com/API4FS06-datasheet.html
                              THE PEAK is equal to or greater than 70%.
                              Haven't you even seen an efficiency curve?
                              Mann-Made Global Warming.
                              - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

                              -
                              Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

                              - Dr Seuss
                              -
                              You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
                              -

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                              • ratdude747
                                Black Sheep
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 17136
                                • USA

                                #35
                                Re: Acbel 550w price drop! (the famous one)

                                Originally posted by PCBONEZ
                                Why would you ask that when the one you are looking at will actually cost like $40+ [at your zip] by the time you are done?

                                Besides, that was already covered.

                                It's not a smart buy, but you go right ahead.
                                .
                                $21 is before a recap, i generally hold out on a recap until i have to. or i get a good chance to do it (they arn't fuhjyyu). they have very good build quality... very clean power.

                                i don't generally buy used power supplies... not uless it is free, exotic, or dirt cheap. you don't know what you might find inside.... nicotine, cat hair, illigal drug smoke, smashed fried bug...

                                the 12e doesn't compare... half the watts. even less... 250 vs 550...
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                                • PCBONEZ
                                  Grumpy Old Fart
                                  • Aug 2005
                                  • 10661
                                  • USA

                                  #36
                                  Re: Acbel 550w price drop! (the famous one)

                                  Last PSU I bought was a new in [sealed] box 650-watt Earthwatts.
                                  I paid $31 delivered and I got a warranty with it.
                                  It's less likely to need recapped than that POS you like and even if I need to it would be much cheaper [and easier] to do.
                                  For $10 more than your 'good deal' it's 80+, 100 watts more, w/warranty, and it's quiet.

                                  I find deals like that ALL THE TIME.
                                  - If you don't it's because you don't look until you need one.
                                  .
                                  Mann-Made Global Warming.
                                  - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

                                  -
                                  Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

                                  - Dr Seuss
                                  -
                                  You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
                                  -

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                                  • 370forlife
                                    Large Marge
                                    • Aug 2008
                                    • 3112
                                    • United States

                                    #37
                                    Re: Acbel 550w price drop! (the famous one)

                                    http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php...Story2&reid=26

                                    The OCZ EvoStream 600W (same 3Y unit as this AcBel, but with a modular interface) does about 77% efficiency. This is reflected in the heat numbers. Voltage regulation isn't stellar either. I would have to agree that if you need a good, cheap unit to use for a bit it's ok. Otherwise there are better, 80plus choices out there with a better assortment of connectors, quieter, and that offer similar or better performance, all at a similar or cheaper price (and less work)

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