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  • TechGeek
    Computer Geek
    • Jan 2015
    • 2254
    • USA

    #5921
    At least destroying solid-state media is pretty easy, just snap 'em in half and toss the pieces in a bin.
    Don't buy those $10 PSU "specials". They fail, and they have taken whole computers with them.

    My computer doubles as a space heater.

    Permanently Retired Systems:
    RIP Advantech UNO-3072LA (2008-2021) - Decommissioned and taken out of service permanently due to lack of software support for it. Not very likely to ever be recommissioned again.
    Asus Q550LF (Old main laptop, 2014-2022) - Decommissioned and stripped due to a myriad of problems, the main battery bloating being the final nail in the coffin.


    Kooky and Kool Systems
    - 1996 Power Macintosh 7200/120 + PC Compatibility Card - Under Restoration
    - 1993 Gateway 2000 80486DX/50 - Fully Operational/WIP
    - 2004 Athlon 64 Retro Gaming System - Indefinitely Parked
    - Main Workstation - Fully operational!

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    • Topcat
      The Boss Stooge
      • Oct 2003
      • 16956
      • United States

      #5922
      Originally posted by TechGeek
      At least destroying solid-state media is pretty easy, just snap 'em in half and toss the pieces in a bin.
      I feed M.2's to my commercial document shredder. It chews them up like they're nothing.
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      • TechGeek
        Computer Geek
        • Jan 2015
        • 2254
        • USA

        #5923
        Probably easier to munch on than a credit card offer envelope or an old CD.
        Don't buy those $10 PSU "specials". They fail, and they have taken whole computers with them.

        My computer doubles as a space heater.

        Permanently Retired Systems:
        RIP Advantech UNO-3072LA (2008-2021) - Decommissioned and taken out of service permanently due to lack of software support for it. Not very likely to ever be recommissioned again.
        Asus Q550LF (Old main laptop, 2014-2022) - Decommissioned and stripped due to a myriad of problems, the main battery bloating being the final nail in the coffin.


        Kooky and Kool Systems
        - 1996 Power Macintosh 7200/120 + PC Compatibility Card - Under Restoration
        - 1993 Gateway 2000 80486DX/50 - Fully Operational/WIP
        - 2004 Athlon 64 Retro Gaming System - Indefinitely Parked
        - Main Workstation - Fully operational!

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        • Topcat
          The Boss Stooge
          • Oct 2003
          • 16956
          • United States

          #5924
          Swapped out an Arctic Freezer II 360mm for a client that for some reason wouldn't cool anymore despite the fact the pump was running and it didn't leak (no coolant loss). I built the system for the client back in 2021 or so. Client gave me the old one....so I dissected it to see where the failure was.... Apparent defect from the manufacturer; gasket issue that caused electrolysis to occur. They supplied a replacement cold plate & gasket. Drained all the old coolant, flushed, and installed the new parts & refilled with my own cocktail. Good as new!
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          • Dan81
            SNES-powered
            • Oct 2013
            • 1866
            • Romania

            #5925
            Scored some more retro stuff:

            2x Jasper 360s
            Mercury KOB 730s FSMx - basically PCChips M810LR rev 7.1A, has VIA audio codec instead of C-Media/Realtek (thank god - the one on the green recapped M810 is a nightmare.). Came with a green XP1700, one of the CPUs that first got me into the retro business
            MSI K7T266 Pro2-U w/ AXP 2000+, 2x DDR sticks (unknown size)
            MS Industrial KY-400ATX - pretty beefy Sun Pro \
            genuine PS3 Dualshock 3 - you'd be scared to find out how many fakes are out there.
            genuine 360 controller
            a cold beer
            Main rig:
            Gigabyte B75M-D3H
            Core i5-3470 3.60GHz
            Gigabyte Geforce GTX650 1GB GDDR5
            16GB DDR3-1600
            Samsung SH-224AB DVD-RW
            FSP Bluestorm II 500W (recapped)
            120GB ADATA + 2x Seagate Barracuda ES.2 ST31000340NS 1TB
            Delux MG760 case

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            • Topcat
              The Boss Stooge
              • Oct 2003
              • 16956
              • United States

              #5926
              Had a big dropoff of goodness from a local resort. The pick of the litter is a Precision T7910 dual 2011-3 workstation supporting E5 2xxx v4's. Gonna have some fun with this one.
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              • Dan81
                SNES-powered
                • Oct 2013
                • 1866
                • Romania

                #5927
                Compaq EVO D310v case, probably the next days (awaiting confirmation from my friend that he can give it away).

                I'm tempted to build either a P4 or go Athlon XP w/ PCChips M810LR recap.
                Main rig:
                Gigabyte B75M-D3H
                Core i5-3470 3.60GHz
                Gigabyte Geforce GTX650 1GB GDDR5
                16GB DDR3-1600
                Samsung SH-224AB DVD-RW
                FSP Bluestorm II 500W (recapped)
                120GB ADATA + 2x Seagate Barracuda ES.2 ST31000340NS 1TB
                Delux MG760 case

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                • Topcat
                  The Boss Stooge
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 16956
                  • United States

                  #5928
                  Originally posted by Topcat
                  Had a big dropoff of goodness from a local resort. The pick of the litter is a Precision T7910 dual 2011-3 workstation supporting E5 2xxx v4's. Gonna have some fun with this one.
                  Finally had a little time to see what was in this.... 2x E5-2690 v4 CPU's 14 cores per CPU; 28 total @ 2.6GHz....holy shit, 28 cores + HT! 64gb DDR4; 8x 8GB modules. Weaksauce NVS310 GPU, LSI 9361 SAS card w/ BBU. HDD's were 2x toshiba 1tb sata.

                  Not bad!

                  The fun has already begun...bought a few things for it...
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                  • ChaosLegionnaire
                    HC Overclocker
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 3264
                    • Singapore

                    #5929
                    Originally posted by Dan81
                    I had to reoder the PCI cards for one
                    ​ah ok. looks like a pci slot irq assignment problem. the creative soundblaster cards also had those problems. wouldnt work in some pci slots but were ok in others. had to keep moving the card around until it found a pci slot it liked and worked okay in... very fussy and picky hardware!
                    Originally posted by Topcat
                    E5-2690 v4 CPU's 14 cores per CPU
                    looked that cpu up on wikipedia. turns out it cost US$2090 back in the day when it first came out. couldnt believe it... that price on just a cpu alone...

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                    • jiroy
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Jun 2016
                      • 2416
                      • Lebanon

                      #5930
                      Originally posted by ChaosLegionnaire
                      ​ah ok. looks like a pci slot irq assignment problem. the creative soundblaster cards also had those problems. wouldnt work in some pci slots but were ok in others. had to keep moving the card around until it found a pci slot it liked and worked okay in... very fussy and picky hardware!

                      looked that cpu up on wikipedia. turns out it cost US$2090 back in the day when it first came out. couldnt believe it... that price on just a cpu alone...
                      Absolutely true .. A real nightmare back then . Specially with some dedicated PCI Cards which came originally with a specific IRQ that cannot be changed .

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                      • dmill89
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 2534
                        • USA

                        #5931
                        Originally posted by ChaosLegionnaire
                        looked that cpu up on wikipedia. turns out it cost US$2090 back in the day when it first came out. couldnt believe it... that price on just a cpu alone...
                        And now they go for around $30 on eBay (gotta love depreciation). At that price point they make a pretty good budget build option when combined with one of the many Chinese X99 motherboards that are flooding the market (or of course in an older workstation if you can get it for a decent price). Performance wise they're on-par with something like a Ryzen 5 5500 of I7-12400F, but since it is split across 14 cores rather than 6 in the newer CPUs the Xeon isn't as good in single threaded performance, and of course the Xeon is far less efficient with a 135W TDP rather than the 65W of the newer chips.

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                        • Topcat
                          The Boss Stooge
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 16956
                          • United States

                          #5932
                          Originally posted by dmill89

                          And now they go for around $30 on eBay (gotta love depreciation). At that price point they make a pretty good budget build option when combined with one of the many Chinese X99 motherboards that are flooding the market (or of course in an older workstation if you can get it for a decent price). Performance wise they're on-par with something like a Ryzen 5 5500 of I7-12400F, but since it is split across 14 cores rather than 6 in the newer CPUs the Xeon isn't as good in single threaded performance, and of course the Xeon is far less efficient with a 135W TDP rather than the 65W of the newer chips.
                          True. I've got nothing in the T7910 workstation. By the time I build it out to my liking, I'll have ~$200 in it.... A barebones T7910 sells on ebay with lesser hardware for $250 and up + ship, this one will be outfitted well above & beyond that. I'll still make a buck on it in the end....but I'd hate to know what the pricetag for this was when it was new!
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                          • Dan81
                            SNES-powered
                            • Oct 2013
                            • 1866
                            • Romania

                            #5933
                            Gutted a C2D BTX prebuilt:

                            - Chieftec-Delta GPS-350FB-101 A PSU (yum!)
                            - 80GB Sammy HDD
                            - T H I C C A F Akasa 8cm fan (suspecting a rebranded Delta)
                            - Samsung DVDRW
                            - sleeved PATA cable
                            - Intel DQ965CO mobo

                            Other stuff today
                            - Panasonic Smart TV pre-Vestel buyout​
                            - Xpertvision Radeon 9000 64MB AGP

                            Tomorrow:
                            - big retro component lot, among which there is a Quantum Bigfoot.
                            Main rig:
                            Gigabyte B75M-D3H
                            Core i5-3470 3.60GHz
                            Gigabyte Geforce GTX650 1GB GDDR5
                            16GB DDR3-1600
                            Samsung SH-224AB DVD-RW
                            FSP Bluestorm II 500W (recapped)
                            120GB ADATA + 2x Seagate Barracuda ES.2 ST31000340NS 1TB
                            Delux MG760 case

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                            • Dan81
                              SNES-powered
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 1866
                              • Romania

                              #5934
                              So, recent stuff:

                              - 2x Quantum Bigfoot CY 2160AT - one is dead with unreadable sectors, the other is absolutely fine (managed to partition and format just fine)
                              - ASUS A52JE - i5 540m+ HD 5470M. Interestingly glossy case (a bit uncharacteristic for the 52 series) and the CPU as well, as I have yet had to encounter a 5xx series CPU. 320GB 7.2k HDD, a Hitachi.
                              - Chieftec custom-build w/ M2N4-SLI, 450W Chieftec-Delta PSU, 8400GS Rev2 (G98), Samsung 320GB HDD
                              - ASUS F3SL that had a 8400MG in need of a reflow and some proper thermal paste application. Whoever thought an aluminium square tape over the copper that goes over the GPU is a good idea needs to be fired.
                              - Seagate Medalist 4321 - working, neat shape! One of Seagate's better drives IMO.
                              - Quantum Fireball Plus AS 20GB - also working and as a bonus, has 98SE installed already. Will have to pull my 440LX/Deschutes 300 mobo tho, as the dual P3 MSI spits out an insufficient memory error. (1.5GB SDR).
                              - Quantum Fireball 630AT 630MB - might be bad as only 310MB managed to get tested. I might have a chance fixing it with either Spinrite or DiskGenius.
                              - Fujitsu MPE3102AT - dead apparently. Produces garbled text during POST.
                              - Fujitsu MPB3021AT - works
                              Last edited by Dan81; 02-13-2024, 08:59 AM.
                              Main rig:
                              Gigabyte B75M-D3H
                              Core i5-3470 3.60GHz
                              Gigabyte Geforce GTX650 1GB GDDR5
                              16GB DDR3-1600
                              Samsung SH-224AB DVD-RW
                              FSP Bluestorm II 500W (recapped)
                              120GB ADATA + 2x Seagate Barracuda ES.2 ST31000340NS 1TB
                              Delux MG760 case

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                              • noppa
                                Member
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 41

                                #5935
                                Originally posted by Dan81
                                So, recent stuff:

                                - 2x Quantum Bigfoot CY 2160AT - one is dead with unreadable sectors, the other is absolutely fine (managed to partition and format just fine)
                                - ASUS A52JE - i5 540m+ HD 5470M. Interestingly glossy case (a bit uncharacteristic for the 52 series) and the CPU as well, as I have yet had to encounter a 5xx series CPU. 320GB 7.2k HDD, a Hitachi.
                                - Chieftec custom-build w/ M2N4-SLI, 450W Chieftec-Delta PSU, 8400GS Rev2 (G98), Samsung 320GB HDD
                                - ASUS F3SL that had a 8400MG in need of a reflow and some proper thermal paste application. Whoever thought an aluminium square tape over the copper that goes over the GPU is a good idea needs to be fired.
                                - Seagate Medalist 4321 - working, neat shape! One of Seagate's better drives IMO.
                                - Quantum Fireball Plus AS 20GB - also working and as a bonus, has 98SE installed already. Will have to pull my 440LX/Deschutes 300 mobo tho, as the dual P3 MSI spits out an insufficient memory error. (1.5GB SDR).
                                - Quantum Fireball 630AT 630MB - might be bad as only 310MB managed to get tested. I might have a chance fixing it with either Spinrite or DiskGenius.
                                - Fujitsu MPE3102AT - dead apparently. Produces garbled text during POST.
                                - Fujitsu MPB3021AT - works

                                For Fujitsu MPE3102AT check IDE connector for bent or damaged pins.

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                                • Dan81
                                  SNES-powered
                                  • Oct 2013
                                  • 1866
                                  • Romania

                                  #5936
                                  They're all straight. Drive doesn't complete seek test properly but does not spin down, causing garbled text.
                                  Main rig:
                                  Gigabyte B75M-D3H
                                  Core i5-3470 3.60GHz
                                  Gigabyte Geforce GTX650 1GB GDDR5
                                  16GB DDR3-1600
                                  Samsung SH-224AB DVD-RW
                                  FSP Bluestorm II 500W (recapped)
                                  120GB ADATA + 2x Seagate Barracuda ES.2 ST31000340NS 1TB
                                  Delux MG760 case

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                                  • Dan81
                                    SNES-powered
                                    • Oct 2013
                                    • 1866
                                    • Romania

                                    #5937
                                    Finally got around and got the dual Coppermine monster in a not-really-retro-but-it-looks-cool case - a Deepcool Tesseract BF I bought for the BP6, originally, in fear that I wouldn't have a case to house it in (which I later found, a Chieftec behemoth that almost BROKE MY SPINE)

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                                    Final specs:

                                    Case: Deepcool Tesseract BF
                                    MB: MSI 694D Pro-AR
                                    CPUs: 2x Pentium 3 SL52R, 1GHz/133FSB/256k L2
                                    RAM: 1.5GB SDRAM, PC133
                                    HDDs: WD Raptor 74GB 10k (SATA2IDE, bootdrive), Seagate Cheetah 36GB 10k ST336607LW (SCSI, storage drive)
                                    GPU: Gecube Radeon 9600 Pro 128MB w/ Omega drivers
                                    LAN: Realtek RTL8169SC Gigabit LAN
                                    USB2.0: NEC
                                    SCSI controller: Adaptec AHA-2940UW
                                    TV Tuner: InnoDV SmartTV PCI w/ SAA7131 chipset
                                    PSU: Chieftec-Delta GPS-450AA-101 A, 450W (w/ white Gamemax fan)
                                    ODD: TSSTCorp SH-S182D DVDRW
                                    OS: XP Pro SP3 VLK
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                                    Main rig:
                                    Gigabyte B75M-D3H
                                    Core i5-3470 3.60GHz
                                    Gigabyte Geforce GTX650 1GB GDDR5
                                    16GB DDR3-1600
                                    Samsung SH-224AB DVD-RW
                                    FSP Bluestorm II 500W (recapped)
                                    120GB ADATA + 2x Seagate Barracuda ES.2 ST31000340NS 1TB
                                    Delux MG760 case

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                                    • ChaosLegionnaire
                                      HC Overclocker
                                      • Jul 2012
                                      • 3264
                                      • Singapore

                                      #5938
                                      Originally posted by Dan81
                                      Quantum Fireball Plus AS 20GB - also working and as a bonus, has 98SE installed already. Will have to pull my 440LX/Deschutes 300 mobo tho, as the dual P3 MSI spits out an insufficient memory error. (1.5GB SDR).
                                      it sounds like it just lacks the proper system.ini settings to boot with >1gb ram. just boot it in command prompt only or safe mode command prompt only and edit system.ini to limit the vcache and maxphyspage to 384-512mb and 1gb respectively and it should boot.

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                                      • Topcat
                                        The Boss Stooge
                                        • Oct 2003
                                        • 16956
                                        • United States

                                        #5939
                                        Originally posted by Dan81
                                        HDDs: WD Raptor 74GB 10k (SATA2IDE, bootdrive), Seagate Cheetah 36GB 10k ST336607LW (SCSI, storage drive)
                                        I'd flip those roles. Use the smaller 36GB 10k SCSI for boot, it'll perform far better than the 74gb IDE for booting.

                                        PS.
                                        I've got a goodie box packed for you....just havent had a chance to get to the PO. I got a quote online and it seems way too cheap....so I want a hard quote from the horse's mouth.
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                                        • Dan81
                                          SNES-powered
                                          • Oct 2013
                                          • 1866
                                          • Romania

                                          #5940
                                          Technically the 74GB is SATA2IDE, so I'm maxing out the IDE channel output. As in, the drive itself is SATA at its core.

                                          btw I think I tested both drives' speed on HDSentinel (as it has a seek test feature, or something close to that but I forgot their wording) and both were almost equal in speeds - the Cheetah was barely any faster, despite being SCSI.
                                          Main rig:
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                                          Core i5-3470 3.60GHz
                                          Gigabyte Geforce GTX650 1GB GDDR5
                                          16GB DDR3-1600
                                          Samsung SH-224AB DVD-RW
                                          FSP Bluestorm II 500W (recapped)
                                          120GB ADATA + 2x Seagate Barracuda ES.2 ST31000340NS 1TB
                                          Delux MG760 case

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