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    #41
    Re: Core i7

    Damn, that Foxconn for $70 looks hella good. Too bad Newegg is out of it!

    I think I'm going to go for the MSI though:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130184

    It's the only one I like in the ~$100 price range.

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      #42
      Re: Core i7

      Those caps with the Circle T next to the ram are either Teapo or OST, capacitor web is unsure what they are.

      Either way they are solids.

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        #43
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        I was wondering about that. I can spot quality 'lytic japcaps in a heartbeat, but I don't really know my solid caps.

        You guys think it's fine since they're solid?

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          #44
          Re: Core i7

          well, if you want all japanese solids there are gbyte boards that employ exclusively those...

          asus calls them
          "100% All High-quality Conductive Polymer Capacitors! (VRM 5000hrs lifespan @105°C, 500,000hrs @65°C)"

          dunno how biostar or foxconn call them...or if they have series with jap solids exclusively...

          by now, i don't think we know of cases where solids were failing in normal circumstances, regardless of mfr.
          might be that timespan is too short to tell, or it might be that solids solve the caps issue alltogether....even when they're not of top quality...

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            #45
            Re: Core i7

            Biostar Tpower boards have all solid UCC caps, Tforce's have solid UCC's, larger electrolytics are UCC's and smaller caps are OST.

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              #46
              Re: Core i7

              Foxconn is a major player. Most Intel boards are made by them.
              Like anything else made in Taiwan, the design is crucial.
              If the OEM specs a cut-rate board, they get a cut-rate board with all its problems.

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                #47
                Re: Core i7

                just another example of how undead 775 really is: intel 946gzis board at my nephews' is about 3 years old...was running celeron3.2 untill today...today we got (used) c2d at 2ghz for some rather cheap money and now it qualifies(cpu-wise) for all games of today.
                they seem to be planning to get new video card(9400gt it seems), and if they do they truly can play anything available today....
                on intel mobo 3 years old...

                they played some games and followed cpu usage...none pegged both cores at 100%...

                775 really is good system for here and now...
                as for the distant future...who cares...

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                  #48
                  Re: Core i7

                  none of these platforms are really dead.
                  they are fine for those of us who do not need to buy hardware for bragging rights.
                  few folks who buy latest and greatest need it.so they waste a bunch of money through the very steep depreciation.
                  then again i am spoiled by getting the dead stuff free.thats money towards retirement!

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                    #49
                    Re: Core i7

                    Newegg has this in stock again.

                    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813186153

                    Cha-ching! That MSI I was looking at just didn't "feel" right for some reason. This one does.

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                      #50
                      Re: Core i7

                      The nice thing about dead ends is that getting better parts from eBay is Cheaper.
                      My Computer.
                      AMD APU A4-3300 2.5ghz 1mb cache
                      Motherboard GigaByte GA-A75M-S2V
                      Kingston HyperX Blue DDR3 8GB (2x4GB)

                      SB Audigy 2 ZS [B800] Sound Card
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                        #51
                        Re: Core i7

                        Well, the original upgrade requirement from weirdlookinguy in this thread was;
                        "Yup, I get the feeling that 775 is pretty much dead. I wanna upgrade to something that will satisfy the itch for at least two or three years. I don't want a few months/1 year to go by and have an outdated system again. That brings me right back where I started."
                        So henche my first statement that S775 will not fulfill that requirement...
                        I use S775 myself and don't forsee myself upgrading in a long time*, tho it must be taken into account if the guy asking for advice says he wants an upgrade path for 3 years from now that S775 has already reached it's end of line
                        3 years from now you will not find a significantly faster S775 chip that the fastest one you can buy today (Quad-Core Xeon X3380 / Core 2 Quad Q9650 / Core 2 Extreme QX9775)

                        *Ok, so long as this Asus mobo does not drive me totally nuts
                        Last edited by Per Hansson; 08-16-2009, 03:16 AM.
                        "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

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                          #52
                          Re: Core i7

                          >Well, the original upgrade requirement from weirdlookinguy in this thread was

                          no, not really...those things about 775 being dead were just the echoes of acstech's words...

                          >So henche my first statement that S775 will not fulfill that requirement...

                          which is wrong. in 3 years time cdq will still be adequate cpu power for most...

                          >tho it must be taken into account if the guy asking for advice says he wants an upgrade path for 3 years from now that S775 has already reached it's end of line

                          meh....the main issue is "is it fast enough for him", screw that end of line rubbish...
                          realize he was running p4 untill now...

                          >3 years from now you will not find a significantly faster S775 chip that the fastest one you can buy today (Quad-Core Xeon X3380 / Core 2 Quad Q9650 / Core 2 Extreme QX9775)

                          true, but so what?
                          are those cpus too slow for him?
                          or for you?
                          or for me?
                          or for anybody except the early adopters who buy for the purpose of buying...or better "bragging rights" as kc puts it...

                          let them buy i7...perhaps i'll buy it in 10 years, if the price is right...hehe...

                          but again, consider what i said about industry reaching plateau...i don't really think progression will be as fast as in the past...
                          ghz rase is over, and multicore race cannot progress as fast as ghzs...
                          4-8...one wonders who's gonna ever need more than that?
                          hollywood?
                          normal users certainly don't...

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                            #53
                            Re: Core i7

                            Well, see, I realized that a Core 2 should hold me over for QUITE a while. Things aren't getting much better than before as fast as they used to. That's why I've decided to go 775 for now.

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                              #54
                              Re: Core i7

                              Hey guys, I've settled on this puppy:

                              http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128358

                              It says in the specs on Newegg, as well as Gigabyte's site, that it can run a Pentium 4. You guys think this is possible? A modern P45 board supporting an old 775 32-bit Pentium 4? (There is a 64-bit version of the 775 Pentium 4). It doesn't say anything about 32 bit or 64 bit.

                              Cause if that's possible, I'm ordering the board first thing tomorrow and popping my P4 in it until I get a C2D.
                              Last edited by weirdlookinguy; 08-20-2009, 11:41 PM.

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                                #55
                                Re: Core i7

                                http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/M...2919#anchor_os
                                "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

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                                  #56
                                  Re: Core i7

                                  Weird, I sell a LOT of these boards, and the cheaper UD3R.
                                  I don't need the "P" functions, and don't use the "R" but sell more of the "R" types.

                                  I love these boards.

                                  If you have a P4 in 775, I don't see why it won't work.
                                  A BIOS flash is usually required for the latest and greatest, but a downlevel processor is probably supported from v1 of the BIOS.

                                  Check the Gigabyte processor list to be sure.
                                  Your P4/775 is paid for, and probably does 90+ percent of what you need.

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                                    #57
                                    Re: Core i7

                                    Hello

                                    I'm pretty sure Intel's 3 and 4 series chipsets no longer support P4 netburst CPUs.

                                    http://www.intel.com/products/deskto...5-overview.htm


                                    The good news is that Core-based Celerons are dirt cheap, faster and cooler than P4.

                                    If you really gotta use that P4, you probably want to get something with a 945 chipset.

                                    Have Fun,
                                    Keri
                                    The More You Learn The Less You Know!

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                                      #58
                                      Re: Core i7

                                      Originally posted by i4004
                                      just another example of how undead 775 really is: intel 946gzis board at my nephews' is about 3 years old...was running celeron3.2 untill today...today we got (used) c2d at 2ghz for some rather cheap money and now it qualifies(cpu-wise) for all games of today.
                                      they seem to be planning to get new video card(9400gt it seems), and if they do they truly can play anything available today....
                                      on intel mobo 3 years old...

                                      they played some games and followed cpu usage...none pegged both cores at 100%...

                                      775 really is good system for here and now...
                                      as for the distant future...who cares...
                                      Mines probley 5 years old.
                                      My Computer.
                                      AMD APU A4-3300 2.5ghz 1mb cache
                                      Motherboard GigaByte GA-A75M-S2V
                                      Kingston HyperX Blue DDR3 8GB (2x4GB)

                                      SB Audigy 2 ZS [B800] Sound Card
                                      500GB WD Caviar® Blue™
                                      1 Terabyte WD Caviar® Black™
                                      2 Terabyte WD Caviar® Black™

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                                        #59
                                        Re: Core i7

                                        Yup, it was love at first sight when I saw that board. Looks damn f***ing SOLID. Plus EIGHT back USB ports, firewire, TWO gigabit nics, optical audio out, "ultra durable 3", and nice heatsinking on the chipsets and VRM? I'll take two!

                                        It turns out my Pentium 4 IS supported (P4-520). However, I really want to run a 64 bit OS. I've fucked around with Vista 64 a lot lately, and I'm always astounded at how fast and responsive it is on C2D machines.

                                        So I went ahead and ordered the board this morning. I'm gonna order a Core 2 Duo E7400 and 2 gigs of 800mhz DDR2 in two weeks, so I think I'll just let that lovely beast sit for a bit until I order the Core 2 Duo. Why set everything up with my P4 if it's all gonna have to be redone in two or three weeks?

                                        The P4 and board I have now won't be going to waste though. I think I'll stick it somewhere safe and give it to my brother for Christmas, along with a new case and a low-end PCIe graphics card. Should be a nice learning experience for him, building his own machine, and I know he'll be ecstatic to upgrade from his

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                                          #60
                                          Re: Core i7

                                          Well, I linked the CPU compability chart above, it lists for example;
                                          Intel Pentium 4 520 2.80GHz 1MB Prescott
                                          "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

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