I'm planning on selling about half a dozen extra USB 3.0 hard drives on Craigslist. If I do a non-quick format in Windows 10 is that good enough? Or some other solution?
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Re: Fastest Secure Wipe?
No, any format in Windows, quick or not just checks for bad sectors, it deletes no data at all except for the file allocation table!
There is an old startup disk called "dban" that can do wipes allot of different ways.
Newer hard drives (And SSD's) also support something called "secure erase"
This is a SMART command that instructs the drive itself to delete data.
This is better because for example it will also clear info otherwise hidden from the OS:
Like the reserved areas for bad sectors, and on SSD's the over provisioning area.
One such program: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDDeraseLast edited by Per Hansson; 11-14-2017, 02:54 PM."The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."Comment
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If you have many drives you could use the secure erase command.
As the drive will execute it internally you could issue it and then just disconnect the SATA cable while keeping the drive powered on.
Just make sure to see how long it normally should take to complete.
Usually software like HDAT2 will show you this before you issue the command..."The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."Comment
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well crap, dban doesn't work on usb. i'm going to use ccleaner's 3-pass disk wipe so i can do it from within windows and still use my computer(s). manufacturer utilities are out because these drives are all various brands and some oem drives in aftermarket enclosures.
should be secure enough yes? i means sure if somebody wants to give DriveSavers several thousand dollars, they could get my data, but honestly they aren't gonna bother.Last edited by shovenose; 11-14-2017, 03:08 PM.Comment
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Overwritten is overwritten, no way it's getting back!
The secure erase method is nice though.
Because otherwise quite allot of data will still be on the drive as explained before.
Especially in SSD's with their large over provisioning.
But actually modern hard drives are the same.
They have more ECC and voodoo going on to make you data readable than you would imagine!"The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."Comment
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LOL...so do I....the problem I've ran into trying to continue using it with modern OS's is 64 bit drivers....none of the 'old trusty' controllers (mainly adaptec) are supported either in linux or windows... 32 bit OS's all seem to have embedded drivers, but 64, nada.<--- Badcaps.net Founder
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^ Really? Ive got an AHA-2940UW that works great with Linux..... My UEFI BIOS, Not so much.Things I've fixed: anything from semis to crappy Chinese $2 radios, and now an IoT Dildo....
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I don't see why the adaptec driver wouldn't work on a Linux 64-bit machine. I'll have to try it; unfortunately none of my 64-bit machines have an actual SCSI HA though I don't see why it wouldn't work. Alas I do not have large SCSI disks, that's why I don't use them on my 64-bit machines (largest SCSI disk I have is 73GB.)
I think most Linux may omit SCSI because of the problem evident on my 32-bit SCSI machine: the detect phase of SCSI is hideous for whatever reason; it takes a long time to do a bus scan that severely slows down boot if even if there's no disks attached.Comment
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I've still got some 147 & 300gb 10k & 15k SCSI drives around. I also have a bunch of 73gb and smaller. Big stack of 9.1gb. I usually use them in retro builds.....those are systems where scsi really shined performance-wise versus old slow ATA33/66/100/133. Especially the 9.1gb drives, can install OS and all programs/games, and not even use half the drive.<--- Badcaps.net Founder
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No question those U320 were fast compared to ATA100, alas modern SATA and especially SSDs makes my SCSI disks cry unfair.
I have a 18G 15K disk, 36G 10K disks, and the 73G 7200 disks (all SCA). The 73G's are RAID1 in a not-amd64 64-bit rack mount machine, so re-purposing those is not on my radar as it would leave this machine without disks.
I still have a whole bunch of SCSI PCI HAs - Adaptec, Initio, Symbios/NCR. Not enough disks, cables/adapters (SCA/UW?), and terminators (UW? U2W? SE? LVD?) however.Comment
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Then:
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/PUTDISKDESIGNATIONHERE bs=1024k
This will make one pass over the medium writing zeroes, everywhere.
Note that this will not do what you want for determined prying eyes if you are using solidstate storage (FLASH, SSD, etc.) as the internal controller is constantly reshuffling physical "sectors" around so the sectors that actually have your data may not be accessible/overwritten by the operation.Comment
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CCleaner has a entire drive secure wipe function, a 3 pass over write should do the trick.
https://www.piriform.com/docs/cclean...ree-disk-spaceComment
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But, make sure you are writing to the whole drive not some portion (e.g., partition) of it! And, that the write doesn't throw any errors (which could indicate some portion of the medium was not written).Comment
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