HP Vectra VL 6, series 8, sound card driver

[PCBONEZ]

Re: HP Vectra VL 6, series 8, sound card driver

I don't know why they do that.
Maybe Aztech didn't pay MS for wdma certification yet.

wdma_azt.inf should work with any of the chips listed as long as the card actually works.
The one I showed you *is already in* C:\WINNT\inf on any W2k machine.
I tried to attach it but the file is too big for badcaps server settings.
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The one you pointed to is an XP driver.
--- I thought you wanted to run W2k.

[Wizard]

Re: HP Vectra VL 6, series 8, sound card driver

OK, I'll ask:

what SOFTWARE they are using on this?

Kiddie programs (for learning, playing games etc now exceeds this minimum requirements this pc has).

Cheers, Wizard

[jpdoe]

Re: HP Vectra VL 6, series 8, sound card driver

To make it short: see if setting the bios option "PnP os" to NO helps

long story:
Dealing with old hardware is quickly becoming a lost art. I love old PCs, but even I am forgetting how to set it up. I'm building a PC from old parts for my niece. I used an old ISA 3com net card. WinXP would recognize it, the driver would install, but it wouldn't work OK. After several tests, I realized I had to set the bios option "PnP os" to NO for the damned driver to work.
The motherboard is a i440lx based QDI. The network card model is 3c509b.

[PCBONEZ]

Re: HP Vectra VL 6, series 8, sound card driver

Don't forget...
~ This is Fun! ~

[Gianni]

Out of topic

@ trodas: which HD is mounted on this PC?

I'm just curios because yesterday a person asked me to replace his HD (10GB) with a bigger one; I tried with 80GB then a 40GB and finally a 20GB.
Only the 20GB is recognized, the MOBO has a P II 450MHz and I presume has been produced around 1998.
Unfortunately I have no more details, but I think this old MOBO can't see HD bigger than 32GB.
A big problem is that today the smaller HD you can find on the market is 80GB.

Ciao
Gianni

[PCBONEZ]

Re: HP Vectra VL 6, series 8, sound card driver

There are several hard drive limits.

Win2000 and XP cannot create or format a drive bigger than 32Gb in FAT32.
That's something MS did on purpose to force NTFS use.
They will work with a FAT32 drive larger than 32GB but they can't create one.
If I remember right chkdsk still won't work though.

Another: Award BIOS earlier than June 1999 had a bug that wouldn't let it handle drives having more than 65,535 cylinders. That gets you stuck at approx 32GB. If there is a newer BIOS version that should fix it.

I think there are some other bugs with over 32GB.
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[jpdoe]

Re: HP Vectra VL 6, series 8, sound card driver

@bonez: the problem is that I've got used to deal with pci cards, and setting them up is so easy it has spoiled me

@gianni: there are several solutions to your problem.
1) This is the usual one. Looking for an used hard disk the machine can deal with it. This is what, to my utter dispair, most techies do.
2) Look for an updated bios. The award bugs are well documented. Several men have collected modified bioses (non official versions). Rainbow is one of them. Have a look at http://wims.rainbow-software.org/
3) Limit the size of a new hard disk. This is what I've done lately when I face this problem. The pros are you solve your client's problem much easier and faster, and with much more control. That allows you to sell your services much easier. I've had very good results with hitachi drives, but I guess you can use most brands. This solution involves using a software program to instruct the hard disk to report a lower LBA sector count. The ATA specs contains a command to that effect. You can use the manufacturer's utility, or a generic one. I've been using an app called HDAT2. I don't recommend it, though, because is quite cryptic. For a hard disk newbie, I guess it would be simpler to start learning how to use the manufacturer's tools. I've found functionality to limit LBA sector count in Seagate and WD utilities, but I would recommend downloading the last versions and playing around with them before buying a specific hdd brand, because i'ts been a while since I've used them.

[Gianni]

Re: HP Vectra VL 6, series 8, sound card driver

@ PCBONEZ jpdoe: thanks for your answer, I have left my Samsung 20GB because I had not time to investigate.

The pros are you solve your client's problem

It's not my job to repair PC, I do it just for friends and sometimes for friend's friends.
If the job is not too much complex I do it but, if I'm not confident, I prefer the safest and simplest way.
In this case I couldn't play with BIOS or HD because the person needed the PC very quickly and I had no time to search info about the IBM MOBO.
By the way, I tried a Maxtor 80GB that have a jumper to limit the size but it didn't worked.

In the end, if the system can't support HD greater than 32GB, there's no much difference with 20GB for what the person have to do.

Thanks again, I close here my "out of topic", this is trodas's thread.
Gianni

[sofTest]

Re: HP Vectra VL 6, series 8, sound card driver

I don't know why they do that.
Maybe Aztech didn't pay MS for wdma certification yet.

Or simply failed testing.

[PCBONEZ]

Re: HP Vectra VL 6, series 8, sound card driver

Ah,
Your link says it passed.

[sofTest]

Re: HP Vectra VL 6, series 8, sound card driver

There is not a card with a azt10* chip on that list, if that's what on the card trodas trying to get working. If they failed testing, that might explain why they are excluded in the inf-file. I do hope trodas does get the card working.

[PCBONEZ]

Re: HP Vectra VL 6, series 8, sound card driver

Yes there is. - You don't know how to interpret what you are reading.

AZT1008 is the chip.
Pro16V-A is the sound card the chip is on.

Pro16V-A is right there in the list.
It is written "AZT Pro VA (2320)"

Further:

Every single instance of (2320) in your link is referring to the driver.
--- We were talking about the driver being MS approved -- remember.
--- It is mentioned 13 times - BY MICROSOFT - as approved!

The INF that calls that driver is up is wdma_azt.inf.
Which as I said before lists support for (among others) the follow chips:

%*AZT2320_AUDIO.DeviceDesc%=WDM_AZT2320, *AZT0001
%*AZT2320_AUDIO.DeviceDesc%=WDM_AZT2320, *AZT1001
%*AZT2320_AUDIO.DeviceDesc%=WDM_AZT2320, *AZT1002
%*AZT2320_AUDIO.DeviceDesc%=WDM_AZT2320, *AZT1003
%*AZT2320_AUDIO.DeviceDesc%=WDM_AZT2320, *AZT1004
%*AZT2320_AUDIO.DeviceDesc%=WDM_AZT2320, *AZT1005
%*AZT2320_AUDIO.DeviceDesc%=WDM_AZT2320, *AZT1006
%*AZT2320_AUDIO.DeviceDesc%=WDM_AZT2320, *AZT1007
%*AZT2320_AUDIO.DeviceDesc%=WDM_AZT2320, *AZT1008
%*AZT2320_AUDIO.DeviceDesc%=WDM_AZT2320, *AZT1011
%*AZT2320_AUDIO.DeviceDesc%=WDM_AZT2320, *AZT1012
%*AZT2320_AUDIO.DeviceDesc%=WDM_AZT2320, *AZT1013
%*AZT2320_AUDIO.DeviceDesc%=WDM_AZT2320, *AZT1017
%*AZT2320_AUDIO.DeviceDesc%=WDM_AZT2320, *AZT1019

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sofTest

I think it's great that you are trying to help someone out but you are calling this one wrong.

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[sofTest]

Re: HP Vectra VL 6, series 8, sound card driver

I know perfectly well how to read an inf-file, even though it's a few years since I worked hardware and OS professionally. I first laid may hands on a computer keyboard in 1981 (minis), and has used (and worked on professionally, on and off) PC's since 1986. So I've had my share of difficult hardware and software to wrestle with, even back in times when PnP was a wet dream.

1. Aztech has made a shitload of soundcard models, of which only 20 has made it to the compatibility list.

2. We have no confirmation on which soundcard trodas has trouble with, only your assumption that the card you found is the correct one, and that one do use the AZT2320 chipset according to the link you provided. From a links on the net, one can find that HP also delivered cards with the AZT1008 chipset with the PC model trodas is working on. But we know the card worked pre-W2K.

3. On the compatibility list, the brackets show what chipset the compatible cards uses. Just look att the Avance Logic-section just above, also. The AZT SC16 3D(W) uses the non-Aztech AD1816 chipset, the 338 uses the non-Aztech Aureal 8820 chipset, the AZT 16A SRS 3D uses the AZT2316 chipset, the AZT Pro VA uses (yes) the AZT2320 chipset etc. But no, none of the Aztech cards on the compatibility list do use the AZT10* series chipset. As said before, that might also explain why those are excluded in the inf-file. Maybe they are excluded and not on the list because they are untested, for all I know.

PCBONEZ, I don't see what your problem with this is. The card might even be the one you found, and if so, probably will work. If trodas solves his problem with your help, all the best to you, trodas and the little girl. Even I will learn something, and that's half the reason I'm spending time in forums. I'm sure trodas will try your all your advices anyway, as you know each other from other forums. I probably would do that also, if I where in trodas' shoes, even if I would be very tempted to shell out for a US$ 4.00 USB sound device myself, just to get the problem out of the little hair I got left. If it doesn't work in W2K, I might have the explanation for that. I do hope you understand that I've no reason to wish your findings not to work?

It's not often I look forward to the result of the treads I participate in, but on this one, I do look forward for trodas' findings.

[PCBONEZ]

Re: HP Vectra VL 6, series 8, sound card driver

I know perfectly well how to read an inf-file

Obviously NOT!

Confirmation of WHAT!?
He ask for a W2K driver for the sound card that came in a HP Vectra VL 6.
THAT's what I gave him.

Why are you the only one that doesn't know what the card is?

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