OC'ing a motherboard from 1998(sarcastic)

[Heihachi_73]

Re: OC'ing a motherboard from 1998(sarcastic)

For me, 1998 in gaming was Tekken 2 and Mario Kart 64.

1998 in computers I would rather forget, my Packard Bell 3166D (bought for me in late 1997) is literally a doorstop today. Originally a Pentium 166 with 16MB RAM and Windows 95, it was retired in 2001 after being overclocked at 200 MHz with 32MB RAM and Windows 98 SE (eventually I got a real Pentium 200 chip to put in there). The Aztech Labs ISA sound/modem card was terrible (based on a SB Pro which could only play one sound at a time, and the 56K modem connected at 45333 bps at best), and the 2MB S3 ViRGE (onboard video) was worse than terrible. I even had to replace the power supply early in its life as it barely lasted two years, had to borrow a PSU from an old 486 I found just to get it working - it still has the same PSU today.

[Endurance]

Re: OC'ing a motherboard from 1998(sarcastic)

Man, '98 was nearly the best time for me. 3dFX Voodoo with Matrox Mystique and running Q3. Best LAN-Party's ever. Great moments. Anyone woh remembers Roger Wilco and Gamespy? Dude, why have good times always have to end :p

[jiroy]

Re: OC'ing a motherboard from 1998(sarcastic)

Well i know someone who has a computer where the hen come in the house and lay eggs in it.

Yes , that's what i'm talking about . One customer opened his case thinking it will be cooler and a mouse nested on the graphic card , lol .. Another one , when bored from games , usually hit the box hardly so he can get another ones .. Real monsters , lol ..

[Th3_uN1Qu3]

Re: OC'ing a motherboard from 1998(sarcastic)

Well i know someone who has a computer where the hen come in the house and lay eggs in it.

[jiroy]

Re: OC'ing a motherboard from 1998(sarcastic)

The 5450, even passively cooled, does not get excessively hot.

Well man , I have some monsters clients who live on fans eating , believe me .. I trust cooling , but i don't trust my clients , hehe . They are very experts in destroying things .

[Th3_uN1Qu3]

Re: OC'ing a motherboard from 1998(sarcastic)

The 5450, even passively cooled, does not get excessively hot.

[jiroy]

Re: OC'ing a motherboard from 1998(sarcastic)

I think the HD5450 beats it though.

It could be , but Ati graphic cards are not an optimal option for me . I'm living in a ME country where temperatures can reach 35c in summer and at least for 7 months , especially in Beirut where heat and high moister are a real problem . Heat is our primary enemy , and this where Ati always failed to notice . Toshiba for an example , have made laptops and put this logo on " Approved for ME" . Ati didn't ..

[Th3_uN1Qu3]

Re: OC'ing a motherboard from 1998(sarcastic)

I think the HD5450 beats it though.

[jiroy]

Re: OC'ing a motherboard from 1998(sarcastic)

There is also the GeForce 9500 on PCI, that may be easier to find and cheaper. Edit: Also a "HD5450 PCI Edition". That gives you quite a few options now.

Most of my clients are either P.E.S. addicted , or professionals in Video editing and they always want the best for less (usually the less goes for me of course ) , so in price vs performance , GT 210 is better . You know how much today's software eating bits ..

[Th3_uN1Qu3]

Re: OC'ing a motherboard from 1998(sarcastic)

There is also the GeForce 9500 on PCI, that may be easier to find and cheaper. Edit: Also a "HD5450 PCI Edition". That gives you quite a few options now.

[jiroy]

Re: OC'ing a motherboard from 1998(sarcastic)

Well hello, look what i found: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/612/geforce-210-pci

Apparently nvidia made a GT210 that plugs into a PCI (yes, not PCI Express!) slot. I'm sure you can still find that in stock somewhere.

Nice catch . I have lot of Intel 946gz boards with no AGP slot that can be revived now . I'll equip them with Core2 duo instead of Dual core , and their price will be fairly regained . Thanks .

[mariushm]

Re: OC'ing a motherboard from 1998(sarcastic)

https://www.pericom.com/products/pcie-pci-bridges/

PCI-e x1 to PCI / PCI-X bridge chips ... $10 a pop...

You could grab something like a RX 460 and run it on pci and it would probably work acceptable (for 2D and video playback, for 3D the bandwidth would suck), if you could get a 64bit windows work on those systems because AMD only makes 64bit drivers for these new cards.

[Th3_uN1Qu3]

Re: OC'ing a motherboard from 1998(sarcastic)

Well hello, look what i found: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/612/geforce-210-pci

Apparently nvidia made a GT210 that plugs into a PCI (yes, not PCI Express!) slot. I'm sure you can still find that in stock somewhere.

[Th3_uN1Qu3]

Re: OC'ing a motherboard from 1998(sarcastic)

PCI video cards were generally always more expensive than their AGP equivalents for some reason

It was an incentive to upgrade mostly. They had to have a bridge chip, but that alone doesn't justify the cost.

[TechGeek]

Re: OC'ing a motherboard from 1998(sarcastic)

talk about proprietary designs

[Heihachi_73]

Re: OC'ing a motherboard from 1998(sarcastic)

All of those are (or were) worth more than the PC and PCs two generations newer.

PCI video cards were generally always more expensive than their AGP equivalents for some reason. The Intel 815 chipset added support for AGP video cards - on mine, the BIOS already supported AGP, but the 810 chipset didn't and the board didn't even have solder pads for an AGP slot, it had chips and other surface-mounted stuff in that area - I've seen other non-HP 810 boards that actually put the ATX connector there!

[jiroy]

Re: OC'ing a motherboard from 1998(sarcastic)

The GeForce 4 MX and GeForce FX 5200 were also available in PCI. Just sayin'.

Add to that the Pci Nvidia GF 6200 LX..

[Th3_uN1Qu3]

Re: OC'ing a motherboard from 1998(sarcastic)

and PCI slots only means it doesn't have a hope of being used for even retro gaming (24-bit on the desktop/GDI and 16-bit in D3D/OGL - no drivers in the world will give this one 32-bit graphics).

The GeForce 4 MX and GeForce FX 5200 were also available in PCI. Just sayin'.

[jiroy]

Re: OC'ing a motherboard from 1998(sarcastic)

I overclocked my P3 so much it says %&2 MHz.

True story.


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Actually it's not really overclocked much. Nor do I don't recall what characters it printed there, but the multiplier and FSB speed combo isn't in the table of supported frequencies so it went past bounds and printed garbage.

That what usually happened when a Board Bios was older than a newer design CPU . If the manufacturer is keen on customers welfare , an update would solve the problem , but most just didn't care .

[Heihachi_73]

Re: OC'ing a motherboard from 1998(sarcastic)

I have a 1.2 GHz Celeron from 2001, it's the same HP Pavilion 500a with the dead Bestec PSU that I posted on here a long time ago - sat for nearly a decade, wouldn't work when I took it out of the wardrobe. Found a ton of bloated JPCE-TUR caps that weren't like that when I put it up there. I had a spare SFF PSU for it so it's working again, but it's back in storage since it's all but useless today, and the Intel 810 chipset (82810E) and PCI slots only means it doesn't have a hope of being used for even retro gaming (24-bit on the desktop/GDI and 16-bit in D3D/OGL - no drivers in the world will give this one 32-bit graphics).

The other P3s and P3-based Celerons are mostly all Slot 1 though (I have a few other Socket 370s, but nothing to write home about, and most of them also have bad PSUs, all being from that era when caps had the lifespan of a fly).