Ratdude's main rig V5.0

[Topcat]

Re: Ratdude's main rig V5.0

http://www.ebay.com/itm/122019987077

I offered them 100...we settled on $129 shipped.

[ratdude747]

Re: Ratdude's main rig V5.0

I've never had trouble. I noticed theres some brand mis-matches in yours...or maybe you cooked a stick...but when it was here, it ran fine.... I didn't run them very long before the X8 motherboard came along. If the dropouts didn't cause instability or crashes, I may not have noticed.

Remind me, how much did the 64GB upgrade cost you?

[Topcat]

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I've never had trouble. I noticed theres some brand mis-matches in yours...or maybe you cooked a stick...but when it was here, it ran fine.... I didn't run them very long before the X8 motherboard came along. If the dropouts didn't cause instability or crashes, I may not have noticed.

[ratdude747]

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Mine are nice & toasty too....

Holee Sheet!

Have you run them that hot w/o issue? I've read that the max case (of the hottest chip) temp is 85C to 95C.

That said the temps seem better on the "quiet" setting. I'll run that for now and see.

All I know is around 98 or so I had RAM dropping out.

[Topcat]

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Mine are nice & toasty too....

[ratdude747]

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I'm running mine in the 'superquiet' mode, its makes no more noise than any 'off the shelf' system. What util are you using that reports RAM temps? CPUID doesn't display that info.

HW Monitor by CPUID.

Shows temps for 4 of the 8 Modules.

V4.1 runs in superquiet mode... Even in superquiet it was a bit whiney from the PSU. The PSU is quieter when it's off (standby) but when running it climbs a bit. I hear the 920W fixed that issue but it's not worth $90ish to play with.

[Topcat]

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I'm running mine in the 'superquiet' mode, its makes no more noise than any 'off the shelf' system. What util are you using that reports RAM temps? CPUID doesn't display that info.

[ratdude747]

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PSU and fans came in. The good news is that the temps are down... the bad news is it will still be loud... And you in the back whose screaming "look how easy my i5 was to set up and it's faster...", this thread isn't for you

New PSU:



New Cooler fans:



Fans installed (the front stickers don't match but they're the same fans):



Coolers installed:



Air dam installed, final shot of the guts:



Not sure if it shows, but the case included a molex extension that was perfect for zip tying to the USB 3.0 cable... less mess that way.

Butt Shot:



Front of the unit (yes the drive order is odd, it made the cable lengths work out better)



It's running cooler but on "superquiet" mode the temps are climbing a bit high... it's finally settled out with the hottest FBDIMM running at 89C. Not sure if it's bad as it's neighbors are running about 6C cooler:



What is a safe running temp for FBDIMMs?

I'm out of here for a bit... better reboot and turn up the fans a notch...

[ratdude747]

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Not bad numbers. Reads/writes across a raid0 should be similar to a raid10...maybe the controller overhead slowed it down....or maybe its not as similar as logic suggests it would be. Makes me wonder how this same config would perform with SSD's.

Without cache, writes will be about 50% slower with RAID 10 since it effectively has half the number of drives to write to at once, relative to file size (for files that take more than one cluster). While you still are writing to 4 drives at once, two are copies of the two, so you only have two clusters per cycle of unique data.

With cache it's the same, but these only have 256MB cache. CrystalDiskMark defaults to 1GB, so the cache fills up before the write is complete.

[Topcat]

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Not bad numbers. Reads/writes across a raid0 should be similar to a raid10...maybe the controller overhead slowed it down....or maybe its not as similar as logic suggests it would be. Makes me wonder how this same config would perform with SSD's.

[ratdude747]

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Obviously RAID 10 doesn't read the same way RAID0 does. Assuming 4 drives on your end. I ask because technically one CAN read 4 drives in a RAID 10 at once in the same way you can read 4 drives in a RAID 0. Write, obviously not.

I'll probably go back to RAID 0 purely for performance reasons:



Yeah, awesome sauce.

[Topcat]

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Go figure. I couldn't get it to work for me... I'll look into it. I'd be curious to see what crystaldiskbenchmark has to say about your speeds.

I'm not using any right now, but when I was I used the stuff from Adaptec directly.

Nothing spectacular compared to SSD, but not the worst I've seen.



Just for grins, this is what the Paxville system scored running the same tests:



...and this was the same test on a SSD on the RoG Maximus Formula:

[ratdude747]

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these use a 60mm fan. their stock fans are 8500RPM PWM's, but any 60mm would work. cover the shipping and they're yours (minus the fans of course).

Deal!

[Topcat]

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these use a 60mm fan. their stock fans are 8500RPM PWM's, but any 60mm would work. cover the shipping and they're yours (minus the fans of course).

[ratdude747]

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Nabbed a 720W psu for $36. Put an offer on a pair of Dynatron H6DG's as Topcats have been robbed of fans and I'm not sure if I can find said fans by themselves.

Edit- yes I can, I had two offers competing on the coolers so I probably won't win (and if I do, it's still an ouch).

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dynatron-DF1...YAAOSwf05XO8G9

[ratdude747]

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I've settled on the Dynatron H6DG as that's the only 2U cooler that's also a side blower that isn't going to cost $50 a cooler.

I'm exploring my options. I know topcat has a pair sitting but I don't know if they're for sale...

[ratdude747]

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PSU shopping:

Saw this, which is a pretty quiet supply:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SuperMicro-P...0AAOSw3YNXbUYy

(between the two 900W screamers and a dummy I have a handle or two)


However, this had a best offer, which I decided to make one of:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SuperMicro-P...torefresh=true

Only getting one since I really don't need two. Twin power cord was a waste... oh well, I may use it for the x3650 or something. Or leave it. IDK.

I think 720W is enough juice... I'd go with the even more efficient 920W (80+ platinum) but they're in the $85 range right now. A bit steep given the cooler situtation (looking for those next, maybe some dynatrons?)

[Topcat]

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Sorry topcat, but this was no free puppy... I knew that going in though.

Sure it was...only you could turn it into not one...HAH

It gave me no trouble when I used it in the file server case, and that case probably doesn't breathe as well as the SM..

[ratdude747]

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Case came in today. The good news is that it arrived in one piece and most of my stuff fit OK. But, there is some bad news to report:

-The air dam isn't compatible with my coolers. They're way too tall... and they're bleeping SM coolers too!
-Due to above, even with all the fans in the case (which were mostly blocked by the aforementioned coolers), the RAM was getting pretty hot... when I saw one get to 87C, I killed it. Either I get some 2U coolers or I hilljack a fan in there and pray it works... I'll look for coolers as unless I nuke an exhaust fan my only remaining fan hookup is on the other end of the board (across the top) and I'd have to make an extension.
-All of this was with the PSU fans blaring. Despite there being PCIe hookups this must be a server oriented case, as that was nearly unbearable. I've read the newer 920W units are a lot quieter, so I may save for one of those (two is overkill, as I've concluded).

Sorry topcat, but this was no free puppy... I knew that going in though.

[ratdude747]

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That's typical of Windows when you let Windows Update apply security fixes!

Especially Windows 10, it's common to get a message telling you that it's undoing changes and then Windows hangs at that message!

As soon as I see that message, I know I must reboot to Linux, wipe the drive and reinstall Windows. It means Windows fucked itself in the ass!

WSUS Offline, FTW! Because even Windows 7 fucks up too!

I doubt that. It was a hard fault, not a soft one. No idea why though.