10GB Hdd and 80GB HDD?

[ivtec]

Hi guys; can you please tell me what is this 10Gb hard drive is this? i know that this Pentium 4 dell has an 80 Gb hard drive,

[ivtec]

Re: 10GB Hdd and 80GB HDD?

Hi guys; can you please tell me what is this 10Gb hard drive is this? i know that this Pentium 4 dell has an 80 Gb hard drive,

Also someone explain this;this is an pentium 4 but i took this screenshot of this!

[pfrcom]

Re: 10GB Hdd and 80GB HDD?

Seagate U-series http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rc...56643336,d.dGI

Second item looks like something from one of those CPU comparision sites

[mariushm]

Re: 10GB Hdd and 80GB HDD?

It's a 10 GB hard disk.. duh. Just google the ST3... code and you'll find more information.

For example this : https://cdn.badcaps-static.com/pdfs/...41a8d8bf91.pdf

The second picture... you're doing a benchmark, Blowfish if i remember correctly is an encryption algorithm.

So the software tries to encrypt some data and measures how fast it does it, then compares it to other processors. The software just tells you that for this particular purpose (encrypting some data), your processor is as fast as a particular Intel Celeron M 1.5 Ghz.

That is possible. The Pentium 4 is old and supports a set of instructions. The Celeron M may be newer and may support some additional instructions which make encrypting stuff faster, so even though the Celeron M may be slower in some things and run at lower frequency, due to those additional instructions it may encrypt faster than the Pentium 4.
The Celeron M may be slower at video encoding for example, compared to Pentium 4.

Last.. your statement in the last post above makes me think you don't really understand what that software tells you. Next time try not to rush to drawing conclusions and maybe check the Help menu to see if there's some explanation to what you see.

[eccerr0r]

Re: 10GB Hdd and 80GB HDD?

Yes it looks like someone slipped in a 10GB HDD into your computer without you knowing about it... but it should have shown up during BIOS enumeration (unless you have the OEM logo turned on, possibly it gets hidden.)

From what I've played with, a Celeron-M at 1500 MHz (HP Pavillion DV4000) is sometimes faster than a Pentium-4M 2000MHz (Dell Inspiron 1100) but they are generally similar.

[ivtec]

Re: 10GB Hdd and 80GB HDD?

Yes it looks like someone slipped in a 10GB HDD into your computer without you knowing about it... but it should have shown up during BIOS enumeration (unless you have the OEM logo turned on, possibly it gets hidden.)

From what I've played with, a Celeron-M at 1500 MHz (HP Pavillion DV4000) is sometimes faster than a Pentium-4M 2000MHz (Dell Inspiron 1100) but they are generally similar.

Well this PC was not mine i got it on the side of the street ready to be picked up by the trash truck,if i were 2 minutes later it would go in the dumpster, lucky me cause i installed
Mint14 Nadia and now a have a great PC,

[ivtec]

Re: 10GB Hdd and 80GB HDD?

Well this PC was not mine i got it on the side of the street ready to be picked up by the trash truck,if i were 2 minutes later it would go in the dumpster, lucky me cause i installed
Mint14 Nadia and now a have a great PC,

frank@frank ~ $ sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[sudo] password for frank:

Disk /dev/sdb: 10.0 GB, 10005037056 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1216 cylinders, total 19541088 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x263a2639

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdb1 * 63 19518974 9759456 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
frank@frank ~ $

[RJARRRPCGP]

Re: 10GB Hdd and 80GB HDD?

The HDD may be HPA'ed.


HPA= host protected area, a feature you can configure to prevent an OS from accessing more than a certain amount of the HDD.
In another words, tell the computer that there's less LBAs than they're actually are. Thus, reporting a smaller size to the BIOS than the HDD really is.

[dood]

Re: 10GB Hdd and 80GB HDD?

The HDD may be HPA'ed.


HPA= host protected area, a feature you can configure to prevent an OS from accessing more than a certain amount of the HDD.
In another words, tell the computer that there's less LBAs than they're actually are. Thus, reporting a smaller size to the BIOS than the HDD really is.

It's not... his first screenshot clearly shows one is a Maxtor and one is a Seagate. The model corresponds correctly to a 10gb drive - http://www.driveparameters.com/Seagate/ST310211A/

The 6L080J4 was a 7200RPM drive. Assuming it's still healthy (no bad sectors), it would be the better choice for the OS drive than the 10GB Seagate.

[eccerr0r]

Re: 10GB Hdd and 80GB HDD?

Have the days that people finding more than one hard drive installed in a computer to be a foreign idea, come?

Will manufacturers cheap out all future computers so they can only be connected to one hard drive?

[goontron]

Re: 10GB Hdd and 80GB HDD?

Have the days that people finding more than one hard drive installed in a computer to be a foreign idea, come?

Will manufacturers cheap out all future computers so they can only be connected to one hard drive?

im afraid with the invention of GPT and 1TB+ drives, yes the day has come

[ratdude747]

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Will manufacturers cheap out all future computers so they can only be connected to one hard drive?

They have for ages... Most laptops have only been able to do one HDD (although it's mostly a space/praticality thing). I've come across P4 era Dells, such as some versions of the Dimension 2400, with only one HDD cage (the second cage omitted) and a single port IDE cable. USFF boxes have almost always been single HDD. Pretty much every AIW (all in one) is the same story.

I think for consumer desktops (a dying market) it's more of a "add the feature if it's convenient" thing. All it usually means is some extra holes added to the stamping die at the sheet metal plant and possibly an additional PSU plug (which may be omittable thanks to the availability of cable splitters)

[eccerr0r]

Re: 10GB Hdd and 80GB HDD?

I'm going to have to boggle peoples' minds with a desktop computer that has five hard drives installed! With the fact that one of them is not being accessed at all (at the moment) because it's the hot spare for the RAID!

(and that other machine I decided to put all my spare/retired hdds in. That one has 7 HDDs in it currently (4x120G, 250G, 750G, and a 40G boot), all PATA. Course that wouldn't be possible without additional IDE cards...)

[ivtec]

Re: 10GB Hdd and 80GB HDD?

Hi guys for what i understand i can remove the 10gb connection tape and leave just the 80gb connection Tape?

[mariushm]

Re: 10GB Hdd and 80GB HDD?

Yes, you can.

You may have to set the remaining drive as master by moving the jumper to the proper position.

[ratdude747]

Re: 10GB Hdd and 80GB HDD?

I'm going to have to boggle peoples' minds with a desktop computer that has five hard drives installed! With the fact that one of them is not being accessed at all (at the moment) because it's the hot spare for the RAID!

(and that other machine I decided to put all my spare/retired hdds in. That one has 7 HDDs in it currently (4x120G, 250G, 750G, and a 40G boot), all PATA. Course that wouldn't be possible without additional IDE cards...)

And I thought my 4 10K RAID array in my main rig was unusual...

[ivtec]

Re: 10GB Hdd and 80GB HDD?

Yes, you can.

You may have to set the remaining drive as master by moving the jumper to the proper position.

Thanks mariushm; today i opened it up and disconnected the 10gb HDD and left the 80Gb connected but it did not boot,so i need to do what you suggested but how do i know what is the right position?, Guess i will try one position at a time and see! and post back.

[goontron]

Re: 10GB Hdd and 80GB HDD?

Thanks mariushm; today i opened it up and disconnected the 10gb HDD and left the 80Gb connected but it did not boot,so i need to do what you suggested but how do i know what is the right position?, Guess i will try one position at a time and see! and post back.

From what i see root (the linux installl) is on the 10gb drive

[ivtec]

Re: 10GB Hdd and 80GB HDD?

Thanks mariushm; today i opened it up and disconnected the 10gb HDD and left the 80Gb connected but it did not boot,so i need to do what you suggested but how do i know what is the right position?, Guess i will try one position at a time and see! and post back.

thanks again maiushm for your tip, i just reopened up the PC,and( how easy this Dell PC to be opened never had one like this)< and disconnected the 10gb hdd and jumped the pins from the second to the first pins closest to the tape connector and restarted and it booted up perfectly,
so is one less hardware running besides i did not need it for anything, it was there just to confuse the machine, like it did when i had the Xubuntu installed
remember i posted about <Grub Rescue>thanks, you guys in this Forum just rock, love it here,my favorite of all forums, can't get by without it.

[ivtec]

Re: 10GB Hdd and 80GB HDD?

From what i see root (the linux installl) is on the 10gb drive

Now the main HDD 80gb looks like this.see Pic.