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    #21
    Re: ubuntu vs fedora

    What's the difference between the 8185 and 8187? I thought maybe it was like the Dlink DL-G510 and G520.. One supported "Xtreme G" - Some sort of duplexing speed trick on the sliglty different Atheros chip.

    I should also point out to the OP that Realtek makes the best low to mid range HD Audio chips right now. Heck of a lot better than Sigmatel or Via. Stay away from Asus P7K boards. For some reason they decided to use buggy Via HD chips.
    "We have offered them (the Arabs) a sensible way for so many years. But no, they wanted to fight. Fine! We gave them technology, the latest, the kind even Vietnam didn't have. They had double superiority in tanks and aircraft, triple in artillery, and in air defense and anti-tank weapons they had absolute supremacy. And what? Once again they were beaten. Once again they scrammed [sic]. Once again they screamed for us to come save them. Sadat woke me up in the middle of the night twice over the phone, 'Save me!' He demanded to send Soviet troops, and immediately! No! We are not going to fight for them."

    -Leonid Brezhnev (On the Yom Kippur War)

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      #22
      Re: ubuntu vs fedora

      Originally posted by NxB View Post
      Its about the buttons, isn't it? I tried 10.10 and it had social crap and mac buttons. I tried to "fix" the mac buttons but they wouldn't go away. Luckily mint 10.10 has them on the correct side. Everything works out of the box.

      Can't wait for this to get going:

      http://www.linuxmint.com/download_lmde.php

      Rolling distro will take care of having to reinstall.

      I should try the new KDE. I've been gone since 3.5, thats when it turned into windows vista. They dropped the ball "copying" microsoft and now gnome is ahead. Maybe the nightmare buttons will change that.

      Want a real challenge? Find a linux firewall that monitors outgoing connections allow/deny style like eset smart security, zone alarm, etc.
      actaully, most of the mac crap was ubuntu specific. the lefty buttons? ubuntu developers with mac on the mind... same with the humanity icon set, the radiance and ambiance theme, and the LSDish wallpaper. ubuntu went macbuntu. i was able to use the configuration manager to fix the metacity kefty issue... took 2 min. annoying, never the leess

      actually gnome 3 is radically different than gnome 2... it is a whole new original concept... i tried it on my netbook 10 months ago... and once i figured it out (since it is radically new), I fell in love with it... makes better use of my screen space... the radicalness is why the next ubuntu completely ditches gnome in favor of the unity theme introduced in ubuntu netbook remix 10.10. i about puked. once ubuntu 11.04 comes out, my server is going fedora... thank god i put a decent graphics card in it...

      btw, i tried kde 4 6 months back... the layout went from bad to worse. kde just wasn't my thing. i heard and saw the new dolphin... blah. no upgrade to me. nautilus works fine for me, so why make a solution in search of a problem?

      i know wifi can be a PITA and making everything ootb is is impossible.... but it can always be improved. my wifi is broadcom... it can be made to work ootb... it is a "foss or die" vs "make it work" issue revolvong around fwcutter. ubuntu made it so you would have to activate the driver first (which requires a download)... and if you had no wired LAN your disposal (some apartments are becoming that way- free wifi for tenants), STBY. by making it work ootb, if all you have access to is wifi, you are still in the game.

      thats what i never have gotten... people who think "its impossible... stop trying" when in reality, you may never be perfect, but you can always be better.
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        #23
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        I like to make KDE look like Windows, don't pretend that Windows Desktop isn't intuitive. They are doing a great job by giving you the ability to make it behave like Windows.

        Gnome is nice, but even the new gnome feels terribly antiquated. Yes, I tried it accidentally when I downloaded Ubuntu instead of Kubuntu.
        "We have offered them (the Arabs) a sensible way for so many years. But no, they wanted to fight. Fine! We gave them technology, the latest, the kind even Vietnam didn't have. They had double superiority in tanks and aircraft, triple in artillery, and in air defense and anti-tank weapons they had absolute supremacy. And what? Once again they were beaten. Once again they scrammed [sic]. Once again they screamed for us to come save them. Sadat woke me up in the middle of the night twice over the phone, 'Save me!' He demanded to send Soviet troops, and immediately! No! We are not going to fight for them."

        -Leonid Brezhnev (On the Yom Kippur War)

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          #24
          Re: ubuntu vs fedora

          having used gnome (2.x and 3) and mac OSx, I no longer like the windows layout. windows gets too cluttered too easily... niche program compatibility is the only thing windows still has that i use it for... and that is who happens to make windows, not the specific design of windows.

          screenshots do not make for having tried something... the thong about gnome 3 is if you use your workspaces, you will love it. if you hog everything onto one workspace (windows), then you will either love it and start using workspaces (they are more useful in gnome 3) or you will hate it. once you get over the slight learning curve, you find that things go much faster.
          Last edited by ratdude747; 12-15-2010, 10:14 PM.
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            #25
            Re: ubuntu vs fedora

            After reading this thread, I couldn't help but think of this:

            http://xkcd.com/456/

            I'll throw in my two cents. I still use Fedora 11. I should probably upgrade it, but it still works fine. If I wanted to play games, I'd do that on Windows. My priorities have changed since I was young and dumb, and therefore so has my operating system. I'm not a "Fedora Purist" though, so if I change I'll probably go to Mint. I've tried it on a few different computers and it's worked great every time. It seems there's less to manually set up, which I can do, but it's a pain to mess with if I don't have to. I don't like the Windows layout either. Even Gnome 2 with Compiz Fusion, IMHO, is better.
            Last edited by acstech; 12-16-2010, 02:04 PM.
            A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.

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              #26
              Re: ubuntu vs fedora

              Originally posted by mockingbird View Post
              What's the difference between the 8185 and 8187?
              I am not sure on the exact difference. My 8185 cards have a 72Mbit "Turbo" mode. Not sure what the 8187 have.

              In forums related to wardriving etc, the 8187L seems to be considered the best one from Realtek at the moment.
              "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
              -David VanHorn

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